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I'm not sure if this is the place, but after seeing the preview images and upon "pressure", I decided to vocalize my discontent towards this problem:
The boarder between Portugal and Spain in the South, in real life follows the river in all the Algarve region, which is not the case in the alpha-images. Plus, the Algarve region is too big.

Let me more explicit by using images:
This is how the borders looks now:
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And how it should look, borders wise:
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And the city should also be in the center, to mimic the position of the region's capital, Faro.

It's just my input on the issue, and there won't be no hurt feelings on my end if this is not looked upon. Thank you. :)
 
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I don't know if Faro was that important in the timeframe. Probably Silves was more important. (Yes, confirmed - Silves was the capital during the game's timeframe).

By the way, take a look to the Douro river in the province of Brangança (wrong province name too, Bragança only became episcopal See in 1770, until them it used to be Miranda do Douro) and to Ribatejo (what should probably be Beira Litoral with Coimbra as capital, instead of having it so far inland).

If the devs are going to correct this (minor issues anyway), my advise would be to go through the traditional map of provinces: Minho, Trás-os-Montes, Beira Litoral, Beira Interior, Lisboa, Alentejo, Algarve.
 
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correct me if I am wrong but I believe coastal provinces are given coastal cities regardless. As far as Algarve being the wrong "size," the developers have already stated provinces are for game balance reasons only.

So, it should probably follow the river, but as far as going too far north, which is the gist I am getting. The province is that size because that was how the developers saw best to divide Portugal for balance issues.
 
Faro is a coastal city.


It has no influence whatsoever in balance. Number of provinces is still the same.

I'll concede point one then.

As for the second point, by balance issues I meant how it looks on the map as well. Either way, I guess its a moot issue from a misunderstanding.
 
I'll concede point one then.

As for the second point, by balance issues I meant how it looks on the map as well. Either way, I guess its a moot issue from a misunderstanding.
That is why I never bothered much with these things in EU3. The only difference it makes it is de-aligning that border with that of Andalucia (because Algarve remains with the same two provinces as neighbours). But now that someone brought map issues in the Iberian peninsula, I thought I might as well point to some more.
 
Yes, Silves was indeed the capital, but since it was not an actual coastal city (it had access to the sea trough it's river, which is now unusable), I suggested Faro. :)
 
Yes, Silves was indeed the capital, but since it was not an actual coastal city (it had access to the sea trough it's river, which is now unusable), I suggested Faro. :)

I'd prefer Lagos, Lagos was more important than Faro in the game's time-frame and was up until 1756 the capital of Algarve, after Silves lost its importance (Faro only became the administrative capital after the Lisbon earthquake - that destroyed much of the Algarve, Faro not included).
 
I'd prefer Lagos, Lagos was more important than Faro in the game's time-frame and was up until 1756 the capital of Algarve, after Silves lost its importance (Faro only became the administrative capital after the Lisbon earthquake - that destroyed much of the Algarve, Faro not included).

Actually, it does looks like it's Lagos in the image. And you're right, t does fit way better in the time-frame. And so, considering the facts, city wise, it's good as it is. :)