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I don't know if this particular topic have already been discussed. I am curious, how big the map would be (not province but map itself). Wopuld it be big as EU, just heavily zoomed into Europe and Mideast? There would be about 3, 4 subprovince per EU province? Or would the map be smaller?
 
Yeah, but I am talking about the size of the map, would the map as on the "paper" in CK be the same size as EU?
 
Its ~700 provinces. EUII has the whole world and ~1700 provinces. So, say 1/3 of EUII's provinces are in Europe, then there will be 1.3 provinces for every EUII province. This is using questionable math skills and rough guessing, so it may or may not be correct.
 
Originally posted by HisMajestyBOB
Its ~700 provinces. EUII has the whole world and ~1700 provinces. So, say 1/3 of EUII's provinces are in Europe, then there will be 1.3 provinces for every EUII province. This is using questionable math skills and rough guessing, so it may or may not be correct.
No problems with the math... There are some problems with your guessing though ;)

AFAIK there will be ~900 provinces. These are to cover an area holding ~400? EU2 provinces => 2.3 CK provs/EU2 provs. :)
 
To correctly model the HRE we would need to have extreme amounts of provinces, e.g. Liguria consisted of three Marches in 800 AD, each of these split in small piece when most of the towns became "free" and the countryside was controlled by feudal lords, the countryside was then split into independent fiefs consisting of individual valleys and like. Then you can throw in the Bishoprics in the area and it starts very difficult to model even if you have 2000 provinces covering just Northern Italy....
 
Originally posted by Havard
I guess they will have to simplify things a bit then ;)

(*sigh* make ready for new endless "why the map is wrong"-discussions when the map get known...)

Oh my, the Grogs are disgruntled already?
 
Originally posted by Havard
I guess they will have to simplify things a bit then ;)

(*sigh* make ready for new endless "why the map is wrong"-discussions when the map get known...)

According to friend of mine the HRE had some independent fiefs consisting of small villages with their own currency... Imagine doing to research on dynasties on that level for 800 years...
 
Originally posted by Havard
I guess they will have to simplify things a bit then ;)

(*sigh* make ready for new endless "why the map is wrong"-discussions when the map get known...)

And those ever so informative "Why is there PTI?" discussions. :D
 
Originally posted by Sonny


And those ever so informative "Why is there PTI?" discussions. :D

So, why is there PTI all over the Americas and Southern Africa on the CK map?

*ducks and runs*
:D :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Tambourmajor


So, why is there PTI all over the Americas and Southern Africa on the CK map?

*ducks and runs*
:D :rolleyes:

I wasn't supposed to tell you this, but the real reason is that the Paradox folks lost their books which had those maps in them so they don't know what to put there. They just use that inhospitable stuuf as an excuse. Shhhh, don't tell.;)
 
Originally posted by Aetius


According to friend of mine the HRE had some independent fiefs consisting of small villages with their own currency... Imagine doing to research on dynasties on that level for 800 years...

:D

Dude, been there, done that! I have several hundred pages of research listing the rulers of hundreds of HRE states among my ruler lists that I hope to have published one day. A quick check revealed that I have lists of the rulers of 326 states during the HRE period within the boundries of modern Germany alone, which exludes of course all those many, many HRE states that were located in what are now other countries...
 
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Originally posted by Demetrios


:D

Dude, been there, done that! I have several hundred pages of research listing the rulers of hundreds of HRE states among my ruler lists that I hope to have published one day. A quick check revealed that I have lists of the rulers of 326 states during the HRE period within the boundries of modern Germany alone, which exludes of course all those many, many HRE states that were located in what are now other countries...

That may be useful once Paradox decides to make a "HRE Universalis" game ;)
 
Originally posted by Demetrios


:D

Dude, been there, done that! I have several hundred pages of research listing the rulers of hundreds of HRE states among my ruler lists that I hope to have published one day. A quick check revealed that I have lists of the rulers of 326 states during the HRE period within the boundries of modern Germany alone, which exludes of course all those many, many HRE states that were located in what are now other countries...

How many years does it cover?:)
 
Originally posted by Demetrios


:D

Dude, been there, done that! I have several hundred pages of research listing the rulers of hundreds of HRE states among my ruler lists that I hope to have published one day. A quick check revealed that I have lists of the rulers of 326 states during the HRE period within the boundries of modern Germany alone, which exludes of course all those many, many HRE states that were located in what are now other countries...

Wow, that must be one amazing list of rulers! If it is published, I can't wait to take a look at it. Talk about commitment! :D