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I am playing as the Duchy of Toscana. I have been playing for about 16 years and have become the Queen of Italy. However, I am wondering how do I get Mathilde's son to inherit the throne. I've played around with a saved game and can't figure out the succession. I have it set on default.
 
I assume he's a bastard (and thus the only way to continue your dynasty)? In that case, you need Elective Law and to give him titles until he's first in succession.
 
I don't think he is a bastard. She is married to a courtier. I tried giving him the title of duke and he was first in succession, but the game ended.

That is because he did inherit. Remember that children take dynasty names from their father. This means that once all your titles are inherited from outside the family, it is game over. What you could do instead is change to Salic inheritance and make sure the son doesn't survive to inheritance or if you are the PC you can excommunicate him and he won't inherit. If your succession line is empty the game will create a new character to inherit. He will have the DiCanossa dynasty name, but will not be related to Mathilda. He will most likely have awful stats. These are referred to as "Country Cousins" on this forum.
 
Well, you basicly have two options: Either you follow TempestDK's advice and go with the "country cousin" or you set up your heir in line of succession, give him a title or two and switch to playing him. Once you switch you can either have Mathilde assassinated (who doesn't enjoy a good family drama), kill her through the console or wait for her to die a natural death and see what she can do to run the kingdom to the ground (or to greater glory, the AI can be unpredictable some times).

The way I see it, the choice is wether you want to keep Mathilda's dynasty name or the fathers. If you plan in advance you can set your heir in the line of succession of some other desirable lands, or you can simply choose a dynasty that sounds good. Want a Habsburg ruling Italy? Or Jimenez? Or Rurikovich? Or some unknown italian family with a cool name? Personally, I would opt for modding in a Corleone dynasty and make the de Hauteville's sleep with the fishes :D
 
Well, you basicly have two options: Either you follow TempestDK's advice and go with the "country cousin" or you set up your heir in line of succession, give him a title or two and switch to playing him. Once you switch you can either have Mathilde assassinated (who doesn't enjoy a good family drama), kill her through the console or wait for her to die a natural death and see what she can do to run the kingdom to the ground (or to greater glory, the AI can be unpredictable some times).

The way I see it, the choice is wether you want to keep Mathilda's dynasty name or the fathers. If you plan in advance you can set your heir in the line of succession of some other desirable lands, or you can simply choose a dynasty that sounds good. Want a Habsburg ruling Italy? Or Jimenez? Or Rurikovich? Or some unknown italian family with a cool name? Personally, I would opt for modding in a Corleone dynasty and make the de Hauteville's sleep with the fishes :D

Additionally, if you are not afraid of messing with save game files, you can edit the dynasty id of the son to match Mathilda's .. that way you can continue as him with the right family relations when Mathilda dies.
 
What in the savegame do you have to edit to change the dynasty name then?

Well my suggestion would be as follows (for the OP's case of changing dynasty of the son):

- Open Save game file in a text editor (Notepad will do fine)
- At the top of the file is a line called 'Save = TOSC'. The TOSC is the tag of the realm you saved as. In this case Toscana.
- Copy the tag (TOSC) and press CTRL+F (in Notepad) and search for the next occurence of the tag. This shows info about who rules the realm and which titles are held by the ruler etc.
- There will be a line called 'DNA = "99999999999999". This is the DNA string of the ruler. So if that is the person you want to find, copy the digits (no quotes) and do another search for that.
- Now you have the entry for the ruler, and you can make changes for that character if needed.
- But what OP wants is the Dynasty ID, as he will need that for his son to become a DiCanossa. So write down what the 'dyn' value for Mathilda.
- To find the son, you can use the id line for Mathilda to find him the easiest. Since she is his mother. Now copy the whole 'id = { type = 10 id = xxxxx }' line, go to the top of the file, and press CTRL+F again.
- Now paste the copied line into the search field and change 'id' to 'mother'. That way you are now search for any character with Mathilda as the mother. Finding the son should be easy.
- Once you find him, you just change the 'dyn' value to the one from Mathilda's entry ... and on next reload, he will be a DiCanossa.

Now this might look complicated, but once you have tried it once or twice, you'll get the hang of it.

Just remember to take a copy of the save game file BEFORE you edit it.
 
Sounds awesome. Will try it later. Thanks.


By the way, something totally unrelated, what is the flag on your avatar? :O

It is the Sind Fascist (indian minor) flag from Vicky2