militia

[OsirisReborn]

there have been endless comparisons about defence with and without militia , my question is : should you ever build militia I ? or just wait till 43 INF this seems to be the way to go although i have found that fleshing out korps with MIL prior to MIL II can be advantageous if just for the ability to drop off anti partisan troops in un deployable areas .

meaning that having a non perfect reaction force can be valuable ... armageddon tends to produce way more one star INF divisions i tend to want those divisions on the front lines.

or better yet the real kicker those undesirable generals that get LTG when in command of a one star MIL ... hehe

 

[Cally]

This has been my interpretation...

1. If you're playing a country that has a very high manpower rating and will be fighting a wide-front war, build militia to help fill out your ranks. (Like the Soviet Union, Nationalist China.)
2. If you have a lot of conquered territory to guard from invasion, but you don't want to waste infantry on it or rely on garrisons which disband if they lose a battle, build some militia. (Germany)
3. If you're being invaded suddenly and you have almost nothing to guard with, build some militia just so you can have something to fight with. (Most minor nations, the USA if it's attacked in multi-player, the UK if Germany tries a Sea Lion and you neglected building up your land forces.)
4. If your IC is just so low you can't build regular infantry, build militia. (Nations like Communist China, which will have 5 IC until they conquer something. Also nations that don't usually exist, like California, Texas, the CSA, Wallonia, etc.)

Note that garrisons should be what you use to keep partisan-levels low. They're a lot more effective than anything else.

 

[OsirisReborn]

thanks Cally you rock!
...anyway, i'm noticing even though the MIL-I suck they are turning out to be decent at putting down partisans (notice partisans are MIL-I too!)
While the GAR+MP are way better in this role they cant move and you never have enough of them! The partisans like to pop up anyway often right next to the GAR (I imagine vagabond semi soldiers throwing rocks at my stalwart unknown tomb guards)
This forces you to redeploy something to chase them down so it's looking like getting a bunch of MIL-I on the map isn't such a bad idea.
Later when i can upgrade them to MIL-II they will assume a more conventional role in my korps.

 

[Zardnaar]

Also Militia have very little impact on your TC. COuntries with reasonably high manpwer but comparativly low IC can use militia well. Italy, Japan and Comm/Nat China come to mind. THe USSR can make use of a few and I often build a few as Germany as well.. 43 militia are quite good with the Soviet doctrine used enmasse.

 

[blue emu]

An interesting statistical analysis of Militia:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?296740-Any-use-in-Militas

Unfortunately, it's an old thread and some of the graphs are missing... but the conclusions are still worth reading.

 

[OsirisReborn]

thanks for the replies!
I just stumbled into this but its my new doctrine from now on. I built tons of militia in this past game and quickly realized they weren't a whole lot of help in the front lines (unless i just didn't have enough INF to utilize all the leader limits i could mass) So i ended up dropping them all off in my conquered teritories to kill the partisans i was sure would pop up (lagging a little in the GAR+MP department) There I noticed they didnt do much against stopping the partisans from appearing but they ARE great at killing them (especially if u have 2 or 3 nearby)
This is what i noticed :
They take a long time to kill anything but they usually win eventually. Used in this fashion they make GREAT training divisions for major generals! Every time id finish off a rebel province id suddenly have 2 sometimes even 3 skill level 4 or 5 leaders ready for deployment on my newly arriving strat redeploys. I dont add a commander and i dont fix the unit name till they get there since i only wanna do it once .
Perfect eh ? who said partisans are bad ?

ps: i know my TC would be much lower with the same MP worth of GAR divs (or would it?) but im always in the red anyway by now... so im dealing with it