Monarch descendant not a pretender

[Caligula45]

Hello,

I am playing as Rome with the Dictatorship government (so monarchy), and my ruler had two sons. The youngest died first, so he never became presumptive heir. He did have a son called Arruns before dying, however. The eldest son of my ruler and presumptive heir died recently without any son.
For some reason, people that are not even of the family of my ruler (the Sempronii) are and have been pretenders, Arruns never making it to the list. One of them is the presumptive heir now. All the pretenders are external to the Sempronii with no obvious family connection to my ruler, but still Arruns (who is the son of the youngest son of my ruler) is not one of them and doesn't even have a succession value.

Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed? For RP reasons I would like to promote this only remaining male descendant as presumptive heir.

Edit: My succession rule is agnatic, so the first one.

 

[manager2525]

Hello, surely it is not working as intended. Now what can you do in order to get the king's grandson as a pretend (and then anoint him). Sometimes after changing from tribe to monarchy or from republic to dictatorship a couple of months need to go by till the game figures out the correct line of succesion. So wait a bit. Also save load can help sometimes. If that doesn't do it there is one final thing you can try if the king's grandson is old enough (an adult). Try to put him in a position that has a lot of support base power. Probably a governor of a strong province could would be your best bet. For Rome that could be Magna Grecia for example. You can check which positions have the highest support base power via the characters menu (to see to which province you should appoint him).

 

[Caligula45]

Hello, surely it is not working as intended. Now what can you do in order to get the king's grandson as a pretend (and then anoint him). Sometimes after changing from tribe to monarchy or from republic to dictatorship a couple of months need to go by till the game figures out the correct line of succesion. So wait a bit. Also save load can help sometimes. If that doesn't do it there is one final thing you can try if the king's grandson is old enough (an adult). Try to put him in a position that has a lot of support base power. Probably a governor of a strong province could would be your best bet. For Rome that could be Magna Grecia for example. You can check which positions have the highest support base power via the characters menu (to see to which province you should appoint him).

Thank you, I will try that out!

 

[Caligula45]

Waiting did not change anything but I changed the succession law to cognatic and then the pretender list got reshuffled and suddenly Arruns is the presumptive heir. I guess it was just a bug.

 

[Caligula45]

Also, when I hover over the succession value of some pretenders it says: "+ some value" with as explanation "due to modifiers" (in my language; don't know if it's the exact translation in english). Does anyone know what that means exactly? There's no other explanation then "due to modifiers".

 

[Mackus]

"Due to modifiers" usually comes from characters powerbase - loyal troops etc.

The succession takes time to update, that's why after reforming tribe into monarchy for few months or so you'll have complete randoms being successors, it's because they used to be clan chiefs back in a tribe - from what you tell, I assume same thing happens when changing republic to monarchy. Changing succession laws is the only way I know to force it to update.

 

[Caligula45]

"Due to modifiers" usually comes from characters powerbase - loyal troops etc.

The succession takes time to update, that's why after reforming tribe into monarchy for few months or so you'll have complete randoms being successors, it's because they used to be clan chiefs back in a tribe - from what you tell, I assume same thing happens when changing republic to monarchy. Changing succession laws is the only way I know to force it to update.

I see, thank you!