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Cheers all,

I have played three games recently. All single player '36 games; two at AI aggressiveness whimpy and one at normal aggressiveness.

First, I took France. After crushing German attacks I drove into Germany. In roughly mid 1940 my economy went to hell. Namely, all resource supplies had the letters "nan" where there should be a number (ie, Oil 40,000 became Oil nan). Additionally, in red numbers slightly below and to the right of "nan", partially overlaying the main screen, were massive negative numbers. Somewhere in the sum of millions.

Inside the dialogue box on economic sliders these massive negative numbers were similiarly overlayed, in red, just down and to the right of the "real" numbers. I could slide the sliders and turn the "real" numbers from red to white, but the strange red numbers in the millions persisted.

These has happened to me only when playing France. In checking my save I loaded as Germany and noticed the same thing had occured to them -- weird negative numbers, "nan".

When I played England I noticed I was whooping Germany's ass. I loaded as Germany, both games, and found that by mid 40-late 41 Germany had developed the "nan" number in a handful, but not all, resources.

In one game as England I managed to turn Romania with Poleski onto the Allied side, so no Poleski events for Germany in that game.

In the second game Germany manage to get Romania on the Axis. This game lasted longer. Additionally, Germany had "nan" pop up only for supplies. But Germany could produce plenty of supplies -- I played as Gemany in order to check this. I could not get Supplies out of "nan". Germany was experiencing Oil troubles (only a few drops of Oil was being produced). But she had plenty of Coal and Steel (despite having recently dipped into the net negative growth for both).

Thoughts?
 
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My thought is it is most likely not harware related, lets move you to the bug forum.
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What patch are you running? ("nan" probably means Not A Number; this is an error condition returned by some floating-point math routines.)
 
I'm running 1.06c.

I've now experienced this bug every game I've played. I *think* I can pin the blame on something:

Yesterday while playing Germany in a '36 game on normal AI aggro I experienced the same bug. Only this time I was on watch for it. It occured when I finished conquering the Netherlands by taking Amsterdam. Immeadiately I received a "nan" for my various resources and a massive, this time white numbers, negative number for my industry. Sadly, I closed the game in frustration and all I have is an autosave from a few monthes earlier.

I've read before about negative numbers for resources coming out of provences with convoys attached to them -- perhaps when I conquered Amsterdam I "inhereted" the Netherland's convoy point and that threw my economy in chaos. I have no idea why it does so, but this is my conclusion.

Thoughts?
 
As of 1.06 some AI nations inherit negative resource numbers (don't know how) and whenever you annex them or occupy their capitol, you inherit their negative resources as well.
 
Therfo said:
I finaly got Italy on my side, oil vent down to -160.000 something and rubber was 3 or 4 needless to say everything went downhill for Germany afther that....

This bug was in 1.06 IIRC - upgrade to 1.06c and you will not have that problem..

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I'd suggest you uninstall the game completely and reinstall it, and then apply the patch (well, as you probably did already when 1.06c came out). Perhaps there's a corrupted file somewhere...
 
Sixhits said:
I am running a clean install.

I am playing only new games.

I *am* running 1.06c.

If the reinstall N35t0r suggested doesn't help, check for another possibility: are you saving and resuming the game later a lot? The game does not save all data 100% accurately, so each time you load a save to resume you are introducing slight data discrepancies. The more different saves you resume from, the more pronounced the discrepancies will become until something goes truly agley.
 
Pro_Consul said:
If the reinstall N35t0r suggested doesn't help, check for another possibility: are you saving and resuming the game later a lot? The game does not save all data 100% accurately, so each time you load a save to resume you are introducing slight data discrepancies. The more different saves you resume from, the more pronounced the discrepancies will become until something goes truly agley.

I play the game straight. I save perhaps three times by '41. All of my nan trouble has come during protracted game play.