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Hello to all team members.

Playing as Germany I have found that my industry take no penalties after all my colonies have fallen and shipping sunk. This is in large part due to the 1:1 conversion ratios from coal to oil and oil to rubber.

Oil is not important until late game when tanks are around - the bulk of any army will be composed of infantry. Hence a lot of oil builds up.

This is then conveniently converted into rubber in a 1:1 process.

I suggest changing this ratio to 2:1, i.e 2 coal for 1 oil, and 2 oil for 1 rubber.
Or even harsher - we'll see how testing goes.

This would:

1 - Give the German player some incentive to defend his colonies,
2 - Increase the importance of convoy shipping and defending convoys.
3 - Model the British blockade of Germany. Germany is now forced to regain control of the seas or take enough land to produce a surplus of coal to maintain her industry.

For the British player this would also mean the same, as it now becomes vital to keep British holdings (Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria) that produce rubber and protect the convoy routes.

As it is, a 1:1 ratio ignores the difficulties presented to a country under blockade.
 
How about an Agrarian Economy tech like in C.O.R.E.- all conversion is 2:1 and supplies +50% for nations with farm economies. This would also put more rubber on the world market.

Also, PLEASE give Brazil and other neutrals more rubber- for world market- after all, the Belgians didn't kill all those people in the Congo in a mass genocidal frenzy for NOTHING!

P.S. What about the Armenian thing- are we going to deal with that, or is it going to be like the Holocaust in WW2 H.O.I.?
 
Junkyard_Pope said:
How about an Agrarian Economy tech like in C.O.R.E.- all conversion is 2:1 and supplies +50% for nations with farm economies. This would also put more rubber on the world market.

This sounds fine with me.

Junkyard_Pope said:
Also, PLEASE give Brazil and other neutrals more rubber- for world market- after all, the Belgians didn't kill all those people in the Congo in a mass genocidal frenzy for NOTHING!

Got any suggestions of for how much and precisely where, and you might want to add the Portugese African colonies to the list.

Junkyard_Pope said:
P.S. What about the Armenian thing- are we going to deal with that, or is it going to be like the Holocaust in WW2 H.O.I.?

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Oops Armenian thing as you put it. As in accordance with Paradox rules anything pertaining to genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc. is not going to be put in to HOI or any mods...if we were to do so we could lose our nice little sub-forum. Not something I would wish to take.
 
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Junkyard_Pope said:
P.S. What about the Armenian thing- are we going to deal with that, or is it going to be like the Holocaust in WW2 H.O.I.?

Don't say any thing........it hurts my ears.....


Junkyard_Pope said:
How about an Agrarian Economy tech like in C.O.R.E.- all conversion is 2:1 and supplies +50% for nations with farm economies. This would also put more rubber on the world market.

Also, PLEASE give Brazil and other neutrals more rubber- for world market- after all, the Belgians didn't kill all those people in the Congo in a mass genocidal frenzy for NOTHING!

Being rather estranged from matters concerning resources and markets, I'm happy to go along with what other people want....as long as they're happy as well.