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Looking nice. :)
Just a few nitpicks though:
Silesia and Schlesien are the same thing, only different languages.
Vorpommern should be west of Hinterpommern
Karten seems to be a misspelling of Kärnten
Lombardi should be Lombardy or Lombardia (?)
Main should be Mainz
 
Hallsten said:
Silesia and Schlesien are the same thing, only different languages.

I think that's intentional. ;)

What better way to split up a historical province? In fact, I do the same considering Sakhalin...

Anyway, there sure are lots of spelling errors. Better give it a proper check before making it final. ;)
 
beautifull shading.
On the naming thing, should saxony be there twice (I know there where both a duchy and an electocrate), but couldn't you call the "sachsen" province for Anhalt or something.
Silesia cold be called Ober Schlesien or Upper Silesia while Schlesien could be called Nieder Schlesien or Lower Silesia.
I would also like to propose that Köln be cut in Half (since it seems to be big enough) so the northern part could become Kleve, thus making the first map with the correct location of Kleve (South of the Rhine in the border to the Netherlands).
Once again nice shading
 
names are really placeholders for some, Koln is staying as is, there will be no kleves in this map. The suggestions for renaming of silesia seem a bit long ;)

Putting lubeck inside the prov is possible and I'll prolly do it just wanted to look at my options :cool:

Inferis, the ingame shot is very similar to the other one in the other thread (Gold Mod: Western Europe)

Also with some names I'm not going with regional names cause to be honestly some german names are long and ugly while the english ones are nicer and short. So Mainz and Main, yah i'll prolly change it. Lombardi and Lombardia...not so much...but keep up the help with name changes cause it's useful :D

Vor Pommern is west of Hinterpommern btw, just named the east side Pommernia to save space.
 
BTW, what's the map you based on in creating borders of Neumark? It seems to me the eastern part of the border with Pommerania should be moved a little north. Otherwise, Neumark's capital, Landsberg, would be at the border (which is baaaad).

Ah, but Neumark should be splitted because of historical reasons whatsover. Santok and Drezdenko, two fortresses in this area, were conquered by Casimir the Great in 1360s, thus before EU2's timeframe. From that point, Neumark was divided into two parts - western, German (with Landsberg) and eastern, Polish (with Santok).

edit: Look, here are the maps before and after (I don't know what, but still). :D Nah really, the first one is the more modern one, maybe represents the original borders of Neumark. The second one seems to show borders of further Polish conquers (later than all that Santok stuff I described above).

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/BRG/neumark/images/neumark.gif
http://www.uni-potsdam.de/u/klosterbuch/BKB_Karten/BKB_Neumark_02.gif
 
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Dynokeg said:
names are really placeholders for some, Koln is staying as is, there will be no kleves in this map. The suggestions for renaming of silesia seem a bit long ;)

Putting lubeck inside the prov is possible and I'll prolly do it just wanted to look at my options :cool:

Inferis, the ingame shot is very similar to the other one in the other thread (Gold Mod: Western Europe)

Also with some names I'm not going with regional names cause to be honestly some german names are long and ugly while the english ones are nicer and short. So Mainz and Main, yah i'll prolly change it. Lombardi and Lombardia...not so much...but keep up the help with name changes cause it's useful :D

Vor Pommern is west of Hinterpommern btw, just named the east side Pommernia to save space.
As for Koln - hey, you should either name it Köln or Koeln or stick with Cologne. Having it spelled in some half-German US keyboard way without the dots is not nice. :)

You can substitute all German ö, ä and ü with oe, ae and ue. Otherwise it looks odd, having just the u a o there without the dots. (Lübeck, Württemberg, Thüringen, Würzburg etc pp)
 
Karl Martell said:
As for Koln - hey, you should either name it Köln or Koeln or stick with Cologne. Having it spelled in some half-German US keyboard way without the dots is not nice. :)

You can substitute all German ö, ä and ü with oe, ae and ue. Otherwise it looks odd, having just the u a o there without the dots. (Lübeck, Wurttemberg, Thüringen, Würzburg etc pp)

as I said the names are mostly placeholders :D

and Rythin, Neumark's city is Kurstin. Many times gameplay overrules history/realism when creating a game, I've helped create a mod and (3D) maps (in another game) before time and this is always the case, minor details that are noticed by one or two players are easily overlooked by the majority. I'm not saying the shapes are final, but they are about there. I could poke a bit of neumark into pommernia to satisfy you though :p

btw used this projection:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd_1911/shepherd-c-122-123.jpg
 
Hive said:
I think that's intentional. ;)

What better way to split up a historical province? In fact, I do the same considering Sakhalin...

Anyway, there sure are lots of spelling errors. Better give it a proper check before making it final. ;)

If you're making up a province, why not make up the names as well? I think that Vorschlesien and Hinterschlesien would be a better pair of names... :)
 
I can help with Italy :)
1- "Verona" is fuckin' big, especially with no Mantova around. I suggest to split it north (Verona)/south (Mantova)
2- yet said, "LombardiA" :D
3- "Vicenzia" is both linguistically and geographically wrong, it seems to me. I think that Aquileia would fit there, although it is a bit big
4- "Ferrera" is "Ferrara" :)
5- I think that "Umbria" is too big, going from east to west. Maybe "Roma" touching "Siena" and called "Lazio" would be better
6- Never heard about "Capitanata", but maybe it's just my ignorance :D:D:D

Anyway, great work man.
 
Disease said:
1- "Verona" is fuckin' big, especially with no Mantova around. I suggest to split it north (Verona)/south (Mantova)

It's a weird choice to leave out Mantua, really.

3- "Vicenzia" is both linguistically and geographically wrong, it seems to me. I think that Aquileia would fit there, although it is a bit big

Or Friuli.

5- I think that "Umbria" is too big, going from east to west. Maybe "Roma" touching "Siena" and called "Lazio" would be better

I told him that Lazio is more correct several weeks ago, when showing him one of my own maps, but he won't listen. ;)
 
Disease said:
I can help with Italy :)
1- "Verona" is fuckin' big, especially with no Mantova around. I suggest to split it north (Verona)/south (Mantova)
2- yet said, "LombardiA" :D
3- "Vicenzia" is both linguistically and geographically wrong, it seems to me. I think that Aquileia would fit there, although it is a bit big
4- "Ferrera" is "Ferrara" :)
5- I think that "Umbria" is too big, going from east to west. Maybe "Roma" touching "Siena" and called "Lazio" would be better
6- Never heard about "Capitanata", but maybe it's just my ignorance

Anyway, great work man.

1. Already have enough provs in Italy as it is and name Verona was chosen cause after reading I felt Verona had a richer history than Mantua. I probably could fit Mantua in there but we'll see. Could do Brescia and Mantua or Brescia and Verona split. We'll see :D
2.Guess it wont hurt to add the 'a' :p could go with Milan also.
3.Vicenza is on the very western edge of the prov and probably should see change. Aquileia is a fitting name, thanks. Fruili is horrible name Hive :p. Belluna and Treviso can also fit there nicely.
4.yeah
5.Was done on purpose to created a natural border between nations in MP and could be a source of some conflict. Roma is so much better of a name, gives importance to it. :p Also the name of the city there. Could also be Patrimony of St. Peter :rofl: Also Lazio is very much associated with modern history not much before the Italian unification was it part of Campagna...so i'll stick with Roma. But I wouldn't be opposed to Latium :D
6. http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/italy_1494_shepherd.jpg haha i know its a funny name :D was Molise before.

Btw thanks for the suggestion :)
 
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The names Erz and Sudeten should be switched. Ostmarch should be Ostmark, although there really wasn't a province like that during the game's timespan.
 
It would be tricky to do, but it would be really neat to have different shadings for different terrains. Mountains could have a much rougher more jagged shading level then plains, which would be comparatively smooth, forests could have a curlier, 'fluffy' shading, deserts more a speckled/sandy look, that sort of thing.

If you have Adobe Photoshop it wouldn't be that difficult to generate the four or five shading layers and then use the ID layer to select the areas to delete on each layer (everything not mountain on the mountain layer etc). Then you could flatten them all down into a single layer, and presto! unique terrain shading.

Looking good though. :D