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I searched forum and did not find this mentioned..even if it looks like quite common bug:
When there is no pope and i am the papal controller (which is alogical anyway), any try to excommunicate anyone leads to immediate CTD..... i just dont know what to do with it..or just forget about it?
What I'd like to know is how you could be a papal controller when there is no pope? Making that not possible would kind of solve the rest of it I think.
What I'd like to know is how you could be a papal controller when there is no pope? Making that not possible would kind of solve the rest of it I think.
Dont know HOW it works,but..I (or anyone else) takes over Papacy do there is no Pope. I save and reload and as with highest piety i am the papal controller. This happens regularly to me - at least with 1.04a , in beta the papacy forms somewhere in Avignon i guess...
When as a papal controller, I want to excommunicate someone with a negative piety, the Pop has to have a very high prestige. BTW what prestige should it cost the pope, when the Papal controller want to excommunicate someone with negative piety?
The pope pointed to a province, that was already liberated and converted, when he called for a new crusade. In fact it was the same province as the previous crusade.
I have come across the "no pope but papal controller" problem in 1.04a (and earlier), but it only happens after a reload. Who ever is then allegeable will become papal controller, but (iirc) only until the end of the month. After that the game 'realizes' the mistake and you won't be able to try to excommunicate anyone and you also won't get the nice cross for the portrait.
As far as the prestige cost for excommunicating characters with negative prestige is concerned: AFAIK, the costs depend on more than piety and this was introduced to close an exploit where you could excommunicate any powerful AI ruler, which usually have negative piety due to high crusade expectations and little crusading.
As far as the prestige cost for excommunicating characters with negative prestige is concerned: AFAIK, the costs depend on more than piety and this was introduced to close an exploit where you could excommunicate any powerful AI ruler, which usually have negative piety due to high crusade expectations and little crusading.
I understand. But now the problem is that someone with a little piety can easily be excommunicated, and someone with negative piety costs a lot prestige (for the Pope) to excommunicate.
Also the numbers are incorrect, compared with the help-texts in the program.
