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LlywelynII

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Did an AAR as a Faroese bailiff over here.

I'm not really sure where to put this for the IP packs or for Pdox's use, but here is the ingame list of Norwegian names emended to reflect Old Norse (limited by the game font, which doesn't recognize edhs or lower-case thorns (Anyone interested in modding that? It seems like you should be able to add them to the column of characters in /gfx/fonts/)).

Here are longer lists of female and male names, with links to frequency of appearance in some of the sagas.

Second, currently, the islands have only one dynasty - of Faereyar. I prefer using more local terms instead of the dull "of the Faroes," but why not "av Faereyjar" or "av Faereyiar" instead?

Also, the 1066 scenario has the Faroes under Leivur "of Sudrey" as a Norse vassal, 1187 under "Halkjell of Faereyar" as a Norse vassal, and 1337 "Thorbjorn of Faereyar" as an independent county.

Now, I like having a state where everyone who shows up is related to the player, but if we wanted to include dynasties, we shouldn't use the islands but the settlements (and Torhavn was almost uninhabited at the time): Kamban was the first settler and 'Kambari' was also the name given to Unas father of Sverrir Sigurdsson, the í Gøtu or Gøtuskegg (but not both) were some of the most important landowners, Brestisson left a family behind him after he was murdered, Øssursson is pretty famous and left children, Sverrisson could be amusing.

Leivur should just be Leifr Øssursson or Leifr Øssursson av Faereyjar: it's what he's known by and he was neither born nor owned a farm on Sudrey. And he was married to Þóra, dau. of Sigmundr Brestisson. Not that it matters: he died before the 1150s. We could go with calling it a republic under its lawspeaker, a feudal state under its bailiff, or an ecclesiastical state under its bishop. The bishop in 1066 was a nearly dead German missionary bishop named Bernhard the Saxon (he was from the Hamburg-Bremen diocese.) So we know who he was, but it's the worst bet as the diocese was just getting started as a landowner (it didn't even get Kirkjubour until the 1140s) and the islanders weren't 100% Xian yet. On the other hand, I couldn't find a list anywhere of all the people created bailiff of the Faroes (it was also given out intermittantly as a fief before returning to royal control) or the lawspeakers for the islands, so we'd just go with some placeholder like Hrafn of Faereyjar, Olafr of Faereyjar, Þórsteinn of Faereyjar, &c. Or we could imagine that "Gille the Lawman," the lawspeaker appointed by King St. Olaf, was still around with his awesome name and c. 990 birthdate. He was a nephew of Þróndr and could be "av Faereyjar" or "Gøtuskegg."

There's a good argument to be made for the Faroes being independent during this period since they repeatedly ignored or killed the kings' tax collectors until the reign of Sigurd Jerusalemfarer.

In the 1187 scenario, Sverrir's Saga gives the bailiff for c. 1180 as Kálfr Sendiman, whose son Bryniulfr got into a scrap with Sverrir, who is currently missing some of his family members*. But then, it's doubtful Sverrir kept him on after coming to power. The islands could be under their youngish bishop Sveinn (who died c. 1212) or under Sverrir's (currently unincluded) "half"-brother Petr Steypi, who led several of his armies, or under a lawspeaker. Regardless, they should be part of Norway.

Following the Sheep Letter, the islands' Thing was a nonentity and the king held all the real power while, after Erlendr, the bishop owned 50+% of the land. So in the 1337 scenario, the islands should be Norse/Swedish royal demesne or an ecclesiastical state under its Norse bishop Signar (Sigarr or Sigmarr) or Gevard (Geirvardr) under the Swedish king Magnus.

ps. In other news, "Basilisos Rubenid" in Trebizond 1337 should be "Basileios Komnenos" or "Basileios Megas Komnenos."

*Even people at the time thought Sverrir was lying about his parentage - no reason not to give his father as Unás ingame. Unás and his wife Gunnhildr also had a son named Hidi, a daughter married to 'Svina-Stefan', and a son named Petr Steypi (the Tippler) who led several of his brother's armies during the civil war and died en route to the Holy Land on a crusade/raiding mission.
 
Also, the Icelandic COA site suggests that the current COA for 002 should be the COA for ICEL instead of the current quartered design; the shield for 001 should be barry 12 argent & azure - 6 silver/white bands alternating w/6 blue bands:


The current shield for 001 isn't attested until the Danes in the 1500s, but could be used for 002.

The arms for the Faroes are good, but an older sheep is here, if people would be interested or think it looks better.

The arms for Orkney are simply off - the ship and Norse lion weren't worn until the Sinclairs in the 15th century. The earlier Norse jarls prolly didn't have any arms to speak of, but Malise Strathearn in 1337 had arms gules, two chevrons or. I've got an example at the AAR above, but someone can prolly come up with a more attractive placement - I clipped mine off of a shield shape, so the chevrons are too low in the field.
 
This book suggests no one knows any names of the Faroese lawspeakers after Gille, until Simun in the 14th c., by which time he wouldn't've had much power anyway. So, meh, Haraldr? Grimr?