NOT A BUG: WaD: Random Event Not Firing

[Surgünoglu]

I think I'm having a problem with one of the random events, but I really don't know how to be sure of it.

I'm using the American Strategy First version of EUII, 1.09. I have only had this problem after applying that patch (I had been using 1.08 before).

I'm using Windows XP Professional (5.1, build 2600) on a Dell Latitude D600 with 512MB of RAM. I have about 2.1 gigs free on my hard drive and I have DirectX version 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904).

I read the stickied thread but I have omitted the information on my sound and video cards because I really don't think this concerns either of those. I should add that my system has not been changed in any substantial way--the only thing that I've done is patch the game.

Before I applied 1.09 I was playing a game as France. After updating, I continued playing this game for about two hundred years and noticed that I hadn't gotten any random conversion events. I usually see at least one every few decades.

I decided that it might be because I had started under 1.08. There were other irregularities, like China having "none" culture (since the Han tag was changed), so I thought that a new game might do it. I started playing the Mamluks in the Grand Campaign and got about ten years into the game. Then, as an experiment, I decided to turn the game speed to extremely fast. I usually see quite a few conversion events for the Mamluks, as I go narrow-minded. With the first two slider changes I moved to narrow-minded, so from 1419 I had less than 3 innovation. I have always seen random conversion events with such a setting.

Now I know these events are random, so it's silly for me to expect them, but I think my game experience has changed and I'm not sure how I should test for it. I ran the game about thirty years and, eventually changing my settings to complete narrow-mindedness, I saw no random conversion.

Other random events have fired. I have seen the gift to the state and colonial uprisings, to name a couple, and I have seen others.

I'd really appreciate any advice you can offer. I already made a post about this here:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228968

I'm sorry if I haven't provided enough information--I have included everything that I can remember and think pertinent. It's a very particular problem (and I'm not even sure how to tell if it's an actual bug), but since I do play religious expansion games, it's critical to me. Thanks for all your time.

 

[Castellon]

If you think it is a bug why are you posting it here.
This is the tech support forum, so if you did in fact read the stickies as you claim , then you would know you are posting in the wrong forum as even you say this has nothing to do with your hardware.

I will move you to the bug reporting forum, however this sounds more like a gameplay question, which you should ask in the general forum.
*Moved

 

[Surgünoglu]

Thanks for the help. I was aware of the mistakes you pointed out, but it was mostly these lines in the Bug Reporting Rules thread by State Machine that made me post in the Tech Support forum:

"If you have a problem with game and patch installation, crashes, etc. please post in the Support Forum. You are much more likely to get help there. Also note that there are sticky posts of many common problems in that forum."

"Please try to ensure anything reported is reproduceable before claiming it as a bug."

So maybe you can see why I was unsure about where to post. I perceived this as less a problem with the game and more a problem with my installation of the game. Thank you for clearing up my confusion and moving the thread where it should have gone originally.

 

[unmerged(15337)]

I think it's just bad luck, not a bug. Some games are much luckier than others with regard to getting conversion of heretics, or indeed any particular random event of special concern in that game.

 

[DPS]

I am currently playing my first game since getting the patch. I can attest that random conversions DO in fact occur with 1.09; playing as Poland, I got a random conversion in Poznan very shortly after the Reformation.

 

[Surgünoglu]

Alright. Thanks for confirming that it's not 1.09. I'm still running this new game on extremely fast; hopefully I'll get one. If not, how long should I play before I start to suspect something?

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Alright. Thanks for confirming that it's not 1.09. I'm still running this new game on extremely fast; hopefully I'll get one. If not, how long should I play before I start to suspect something?

Well, you can count the random events in the file 'randomevents.txt' in the directory 'db/events'. Count all the events that can fire for your country (check the triggers).

Each year an event will fire out of this set. There are probably at least 30 events that can fire for your country, which makes the odd that a certain event fires once per 30 years. Probably the odd is even less.

On top if this: if you run a game without restarting, the events tend to get stacked and are not so random anymore. A restart of EU2 resets this. That's probably why you don't get a certain event, since you run the save for a long time without restarting the game.

But hey, you can just have bad luck and never get a random conversion event from 1419 till 1820, even if you re-load the game often. Afterall, the odds for a certain event are not spectacular.
In multiplayer we are focused on the deflation events (about the best event you can get there) and it happens quite often that a country just doesn't get one.

 

[Surgünoglu]

Thank you everyone for your help.

I'm also sorry for the false alarm because the event finally fired. I didn't think it was the reset, as I restarted periodically, so I have concluded that it was as you said--just rotten luck.

Thanks FAL for helping in the methodical approach. It seems obvious now, but I really hadn't thought about it (I had no idea that random events had yearly checks, as well). After about seventy years of running the clock (in four or five sittings, to make sure the number generation was reset), the event finally fired. I took a screenshot to remind myself that there is nothing wrong with my install.

Thank you again--I'm off to pursue religious homogeneity.