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Ran Miller

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opinion_modifiers inquiries + Opinions in sheet form.

Not sure if this is the place to post these, but since it has allot to do with modding i went with this forum rather then the faq.
If moderators want to move it, go ahead.


Im trying to get my head around the whole opinions system, but i find myself somewhat lost in regarding to the meaning of some of the text.
In short - What does these mean?

de_jure_liege = {
de_jure_liege_hog = {
opinion_nominee = {
opinion_non_liege_nominee = {

opinion_related_religion = {

opinion_count_wrong_gov_vs_liege = {

dow_on_son_in_law = {

campaign_friend = {

opinion_spurned = {

opinion_yearly_raised_levies = {
- this is marked as obsolete? meaning what exactly? is the code obsolete? or can this be still tweaked.

opinion_fool_courtier = {

gluttonous_pos = {
gluttonous_neg = {
- It seems allot of the traits have 2 option neg/pos, am i correct in thinking these are the results of the triggered events? (triggered by these traits).

slut_seductress = {
cuckolded = {
opinion_potential_cuckold = {
- ? There are "degrees" to how slutty your wife can be?

forced_drunkard = {

dynastic_refused_claim = {
dynastic_refused_title = {
dynastic_refused_war = {
tight_ruler = {


As promised here are the Vanilla opinions in sheet form;
http://www.mediafire.com/?217n1x9x80ab0o7
 
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These are my guesses:

de_jure_liege = When you own a county that belongs to your vassal's de jure lands. In-game it shows as "desires XXX county" or something like that.
de_jure_liege_hog = Maybe when he asks you for it and you don't give it to him?
opinion_nominee = When you are in an elective realm and you support this person for the title.
opinion_non_liege_nominee = This is probably what your liege thinks of you when you don't support his heir.
opinion_related_religion = The opinion modifier for characters with a different religion from yours that belongs to the same religious group and is not a heresy (orthodox-catholic, sunni-shiite).
opinion_count_wrong_gov_vs_liege = This is clearly the penalty you get when you have a direct vassal that's not of you same "type" (that is, for vassal republics and archbishoprics when you are a noble, etc).
dow_on_son_in_law = ...relations penalty when you dow (declare war on) this character's son in law?
campaign_friend = This looks like the relations bonus crusaders get among themselves.
opinion_spurned = When you get an event where a character suggests something and you reject his suggestion? Like these ones where you can trust your wife or your own gut.
opinion_yearly_raised_levies - this is marked as obsolete? meaning what exactly? is the code obsolete? or can this be still tweaked = I'd say the game doesn't use it anymore; it shoud have been replaced with a hardcoded mechanic.
opinion_fool_courtier = Clearly, this is the opinion penalty a courtier gets towards you when you make him court jester.
gluttonous_pos / gluttonous_neg = I'd say this is the opinion boost for characters with the same trait and the opinion penalty for characters with the opposite trait.
slut_seductress = Not sure, maybe this is triggered by events.
cuckolded = The opinion penalty towards the guy who slept with your wife. Isn't this kinda obvious? :D
opinion_potential_cuckold = The same, but you only have a suspicion? Maybe triggered by a certain event, you could probably do a search in the events folder to learn what exactly triggers most of this stuff.
forced_drunkard = See above.
dynastic_refused_claim = You refuse a claim from another ruler who is from your same dynasty
dynastic_refused_title = You refuse to give up one of your titles to another ruler from your same dynasty (that probably belongs to his de jure lands).
dynastic_refused_war = You refuse a call to arms from an ally.
tight_ruler = Probably triggered by an event, search the events folder.

I'm probably wrong on some of these, so feel free to correct me.