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KarczekWieprzowy

Second Lieutenant
Dec 14, 2022
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Summary​

Please fix "Proclaim Erbkaisertum" setting a Religious Peace

Description​

Proclaim Erbkaisertum sets up a religious peace unless done after the League has been defeated, it's just outright infuriating when you managed to speedrun your reforms before the Reformation has even spawned, on top of that the Pope leaves aswell
I know it's not a bug per se, but it just ruins my enjoyment of a good Austria run every time, I've done a couple of posts on the main page, and in the suggestions patch but I guess these don't have as much influence...
Additionaly from a LARPing perspective, the centralization route is Emperor tightening his grip on the lands of the HRE, which means that Religious Peace makes no sense at all

Here's an idea on maybe how to handle this:
-If Protestant hasn't spawned yet, set Catholic as the main religion
-If Protestant has spawned but hasn't yet made an impact temporarily set Catholic as the main religion and make an event chain for negotiations with Protestants right after passing the reform in question (historical reference, Charles V has met with Martin Luther to negotiate his stance on the reformation, and while it broke apart it sets up a nice possibility to diversify the timeline)
-If Protestant has already made a significant impact set a temporary Religious Peace with certain favors to the Catholics and do the same as above for the rest but make the impact of the decisions larger

Steps to reproduce​

-(optional) Rein in Italy for the Pope to join
-Pass all the refoms up to and including "Proclaim Erbkaisertum"
-Wait a couple of months for the Pope to leave the Empire

Game Version​

1.37.1

OS​

Windows

Additional​

Bug Type​

  • Other

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Hello there! The present is a design choice and not a bug. If you have any questions about it, don't hesitate to ask about it on the main forum for the game.
Look I understand that it isn't a bug, but it's just a dumb design choice, it breaks logic on so many levels

-You're the emperor and it's in your interest to keep the HRE Catholic both from a gaming and larping perspective
-The reform is in the Centralization path meaning the emperor is about to consolidate entire HRE into a state like any other in the game, meaning religious homogeny aswell
-The Pope declares the Empire as Unholy even if you have achieved it before the reformation
-You're getting penalized for doing good, the only way of avoiding this happening is waiting until 1625

I've made posts on the main forum but they never gained any traction

It's just that it bothers me, it bothers me a lot because it breaks simple logic, not unrealistic game logic, I'm fine with that, it just breaks the simplest logic there could be...
 
-You're getting penalized for doing good, the only way of avoiding this happening is waiting until 1625
You can keep one protestant/reformed/hussite/anglican elector around so that the leagues can form and then you can win the league war if it fires. And if it doesn't fire, you only have to wait around 30 years to get the event which makes catholic the official faith