Polyproplene

[unmerged(2907)]

Not sure if this is a bug, but what the hey. Playing as Japan in the 1936 scenario. 301 IC. I discover the Polyprolene tech, which says it will improve my IC total by 15%. After discovering it - IC total 316. So instead of percent, it has just added the amount.

 

[unmerged(15723)]

Not sure if this is a bug, but what the hey. Playing as Japan in the 1936 scenario. 301 IC. I discover the Polyprolene tech, which says it will improve my IC total by 15%. After discovering it - IC total 316. So instead of percent, it has just added the amount.

Was your IC amount 301 just before the tech was finished researched or when you started researching?

 

[unmerged(3221)]

You probably researched Polyurethane which gives you the 5% IC increase that you observed. You only get the 15% increase from Polypropylene at the end of the industrial research tree. What date did you finish this research? 1936/37 or after Sep 1939 which is about the quickest that you can get to Polypropylene?

 

[unmerged(2907)]

It was about 1942, and was definitely polypropylene. And it was 301 at the start of the researching. Why?

 

[Long Lance]

Are you perhaps short on resources?

 

[unmerged(15723)]

It was about 1942, and was definitely polypropylene. And it was 301 at the start of the researching. Why?

During the researching you might have started to construct coastal or land forts, upgraded industry, flak or infrastructure in some of your provinces thus decreasing your total IC. The best way to test the effect of a tech is to observe effect just before and just after the tech is researched.

 

[unmerged(2907)]

Yeah, I thought of that, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't building anything at the time, and my resources are fine, 40k plus of everything. I'm a bit stumped to be honest.

 

[jdrou]

What other IC-affecting techs and ministers did you have?
Are you reading the IC from the top of the screen, i.e. 0/301 -> 0/316 on the day the research completed?

 

[unmerged(15723)]

What other IC-affecting techs and ministers did you have?
Are you reading the IC from the top of the screen, i.e. 0/301 -> 0/316 on the day the research completed?

He said that 301 was at start of research didn't he?

 

[unmerged(2907)]

Yup, at the start. And I had all the ministers who boosted tech for Japan. And it was from the industry screen, as I thought that the one at the top is base IC, before any modifications.

 

[unmerged(15723)]

Yup, at the start. And I had all the ministers who boosted tech for Japan. And it was from the industry screen, as I thought that the one at the top is base IC, before any modifications.

Then I suggest you use an old save and compare IC just before and after the tech is researched and observe the result to comfirm this. It is important that everything but the factor you are investigating is kept equal.

 

[Fawr]

I believe that the game stores two values for IC.

Base IC = sum of IC from different provinces.
Modification = 100 + sum of(bonuses from ministers/tech)

Your final IC = Base IC * Modification/100

So If you had some computers and the other industry techs (and maybe an industry boosting minister) then your Modification will be larger than 100%, making it look like you got less IC than you expected.

 

[jdrou]

Yup, at the start. And I had all the ministers who boosted tech for Japan. And it was from the industry screen, as I thought that the one at the top is base IC, before any modifications.

Are you trying to add the four values on the IC allocation screen? That won't work because the supply value is not ICs but supplies. The province summary screen of the ledger is also not very useful for this since it doesn't allow for the "foreign IC" modifications. The number at the top of the screen is your total ICs after all modifications so that's what you need to compare before & after.