Power limits and technology

[HayJay]

Hey there,

It seems that I cannot progress any further due to the power limit. My military power is 999 while the costs for advancing to the next level are 1170. So basically how do I advance?:blink: Or is this a bug?

Cheers!

 

[Wizzington]

You're too far ahead of time in tech. Spend power on something else for a while.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Plan ahead and go a military idea route if you think you will bath in military points. This is an important part of your long term strategy.

 

[1alexey]

I second that. It is so stupid to get a 6 stat monarch, only to hit the power limit. And before you start, i did spent every single point i could.

Why don`t PI make a simple solution: The monarch power cap is equal to the hardcoded ceiling, OR the price of tech, whichever is higher, so you could always spend your points on something, and not just loose them because you got "lucky" with great monarch.

Plan ahead and og an military idea route if you think you will bath in military points. This is an important part of your long term strategy.

You can get a monarch with good stats in many categories, and idea slots&buildings are not infinite.

I had a situation where i was at 999 admin points, 999military points, my 3 idea slots were fully filled, 3 stability, everything cored, and i was 2 ADM tech away from next NI slot, and next level of ADM tech costed like 1300, military tech 1200, since i was so far ahead already. Oh, and i had like -200 relation penalty for agressive expancion.

 

[Jeanguy17]

Yeah, I don't see the point of this limitation. If a player wants to keep a huge amount of monarch points to invest in an advanced tech, he should be able to do so.

Isn't the high price enough?

 

[Wrathe]

The limit is kinda stupid but I think just removing it isn't a solution because you could do some stupid damage limitations during war with a lot of points. Perhaps a % penalty or -x per 100 above 1000? to further growth would be a better limitation than outright stopping it.

 

[HayJay]

Indeed I agree, there is no point in having a limit! And planning ahead may seem the solution but when I get lucky with a powerful king your plan might just not work because of it....anyway Ill wage some war and use some forced march! Thanks for the replies!

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Never had this problem, but I'm extremely good at planning ahead. I also tend to prioritize economy as early as possible, so I have money to build all kinds of buildings.

The limit is there so you can't just save up loads of points to take quadripple Technologies after the neighbour bonus is to your liking. It's a part of the Monarch point balance.
It also forces you to plan ahead to get most out of your points. Good play is rewarded, bad play and planning might be punished. Learn from it til next time you play lads, instead of shouting out the system is broken. It works perfectly well.

 

[1alexey]

Never had this problem, but I'm extremely good at planning ahead. I also tend to prioritize economy as early as possible, so I have money to build all kinds of buildings.

Don`t worry, eventually you will play smaller country, with a succesion of 2-3 of above average monarchs.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Don`t worry, eventually you will play smaller country, with a succesion of 2-3 of above average monarchs.

Only been playing Sweden and Brandenburg so far. Brandenburg is not exactly a huge country. It also have the cheaper tech bonus from the HRE. I play on hardest possible difficulty, also with AI bonuses and Historical Lucky Nations. It might help since AI will tech faster there.

 

[1alexey]

Only been playing Sweden and Brandenburg so far. Brandenburg is not exactly a huge country. It also have the cheaper tech bonus from the HRE. I play on hardest possible difficulty, also with AI bonuses and Historical Lucky Nations. It might help since AI will tech faster there.

Well, i had that problem with Brandenburg, that expanded all the way to Franch border.

 

[unmerged(13581)]

Well if you didn't have the limitation you could just save up your points and always get the next tech when it's at 600 or even worse - save up the 2400 points you'd need to finish an idea the moment you get it.

 

[RX2000]

I like the cap. Forces more choices. If I'm ahead in military & cant tech up anymore due to the cap I just go on a rebel stomping spree.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Yeah! Limitations are good for gameplay. Forces player to make hard decissions, and constantly concider his long term strategy vs the short term choices.

 

[Hootieleece]

How come some countries can save more points than others? Most countries can save up to 999, but I see some mostly AI that can save 1248.


Also AI spends too many points on TECH Levels.....often 100% AOT penalty to get parity for player and often has less than half the Ideas a player has.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

How come some countries can save more points than others? Most countries can save up to 999, but I see some mostly AI that can save 1248.

Those countries are in Tech Groups were tech costs alot more points. Some are also getting a malus to number of points generated each month, to prevent that roof limit of points having to be set even higher, and to prevent that ideas becomes too cheap for them relatively compared to tech.

 

[Jeanguy17]

Also AI spends too many points on TECH Levels.....often 100% AOT penalty to get parity for player and often has less than half the Ideas a player has.

Maybe we're not doing it right

 

[knul]

How come some countries can save more points than others? Most countries can save up to 999, but I see some mostly AI that can save 1248.


Also AI spends too many points on TECH Levels.....often 100% AOT penalty to get parity for player and often has less than half the Ideas a player has.

Apparantly it depends on tech group. Makes sense, as it is possible to have a single tech cost more than 999.

 

[CharlieSheen123]

Limit is gone guys. I played as Ming and the cost for Mil was 1200 and I remember crossing past 999 twice to level up.

I haven't tried in other nations... it SHOULD be fixed now, unless it's like limited to Nations that needmore than 999 to level up.

 

[Jephery]

Limit is gone guys. I played as Ming and the cost for Mil was 1200 and I remember crossing past 999 twice to level up.

I haven't tried in other nations... it SHOULD be fixed now, unless it's like limited to Nations that needmore than 999 to level up.

The limit is scaled by your tech group malus.