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Filippo Olof said:
Wait! I've just bought it 5 minutes ago on your site BEFORE I reade this message and I've paid 39,90!!! :eek: Why??? :mad:

Filippo

worth every penny or eurocent !
 
Filippo Olof said:
Wait! I've just bought it 5 minutes ago on your site BEFORE I reade this message and I've paid 39,90!!! :eek: Why??? :mad:

Filippo

Murphy's Law?
 
I got it for $6.51 on ebay. ;) If it had been Gettysburg or Antietam or Shilo I'da probably bought it retail first day. But, Bull Run has never been a favorite of mine of Civil War Battles.
 
I felt that way too -- I barely knew what the battle of 2nd Manassas was -- just a brief interlude between the Peninsular campaign and Lee moving north.

When I read about the battle, I got intrigued by the controversy about the Union general, John Pope. Most accounts blame him unstintingly but Kenneth Williams' excellent Lincoln Finds a General shows that many of his decisions were either correct or quite reasonable given the information available to him.

What I like about Pope is that, unlike McClellan, he is an aggressive general. In fact, Halleck had to keep restraining him as the Union army in the West crept toward Corinth. If McClellan had learned that Jackson was in his rear, his only thought would have been retreat.

Pope's reaction was the opposite: the Confederate army is divided -- let's defeat Jackson before they can reunite. His inability to find Jackson was not really his fault, the result not only of conflicting intelligence but Jackson's own errant route.

Meanwhile, McClellan withheld reinforcements, and even supplies, Pope had been promised and based plans on.

At some point, Pope did sorta fall apart and for that he is rightly faulted. But, a new general from the West some of whose corps commanders wanted him to fail (and a motley crew they were), coping with Lee's most dramatic maneuver, who wouldn't get shaky legs. Well, we all know the answer -- Grant.
 
well I've played Sid Meiers Gettysburg ... and I must confess that Second Manassas is a much more interesting battle then Gettysburg.

Gettysburg is more a stroke of luck for the Union, cause Lee was under pressure for starters an let the Union army dig in ... Gettysburg is more famous. And the funny thing to notice is that should Pope have carried out a "Picket charge" at Jacksons line - he probably have cut their line and could roll op Jacksons corps - cause Longstreet was nearby but still not close enough to help at short distance.

Anyhow at second Manassas, Jacksons corps was in an unique postion - they had superior defensive positions ... and Jackson had to wait for the grand final until Longstreets corps was arrived.

This means both Lee and Pope had much more choice to play their cards compared to Gettysburg.

Pope had a hard time of breaking Jacksons lines, I think this is mainly due to superior brigade level command for the confederacy in comparision with the Union. I think Pope didn't knew where the weak points were in Jacksons lines, that's why a big wave was more favourable.

But Pope was very clumsy when he saw the first signs of Longstreets corps appearing ... he didn't change his philosophy.

In the end Pope did put his army at risk, but in the last battle the Union retreating army wasn't that easy to crack.
 
jmartin said:
Shouldn't this be stickied?

yep, but activity is very low here ... :(

by the way, there has been rumour of issues with DL via gamersgate,
 
jmartin said:
Is it available on Gamersgate yet?
It has been available since release in April. :D
 
Jayavarman said:
It has been available since release in April. :D
but now it's working totally correctly, patch and all :)