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This is not a massive issue, it just made me curious.
I don't remember if i had latest official or beta patch with this game, and the situation was like this:
1066 scenario - i'm William the Conqueror in England. As i'm at war with york and Lancaster, and checking on my son in Normandy, i notice that i have grandson! Yey ! Even better - he is count ! But then i thought "Wait, shouldn't he be grownup for that ?" And then it turns out that my brother-in-law had died propably in battle (without a heir) and my grandson inherited his county - while under year old.
I had salic primogeniture law and i think all my vassals had semisalic primogeniture law. So how is it possible, that the inheritance skipped me and my son and landed on my baby grandson ???
 
William is a bastard which means he can't inherit titles, the same goes for his sons and grandsons.

Even if William wasn't a bastard he still would never inherit a title from his brother-in-law since that is not how semi-salic works (it doesn't go sideways).

That your grandson got that title (I assume it is the county of Avranches) may have been because it was given to him by his father Robert. That he is still a minor doesn't prevent that.
 
This is not a massive issue, it just made me curious.
I don't remember if i had latest official or beta patch with this game, and the situation was like this:
1066 scenario - i'm William the Conqueror in England. As i'm at war with york and Lancaster, and checking on my son in Normandy, i notice that i have grandson! Yey ! Even better - he is count ! But then i thought "Wait, shouldn't he be grownup for that ?" And then it turns out that my brother-in-law had died propably in battle (without a heir) and my grandson inherited his county - while under year old.
I had salic primogeniture law and i think all my vassals had semisalic primogeniture law. So how is it possible, that the inheritance skipped me and my son and landed on my baby grandson ???

Since you are not related in any way to your sister's husband, you will never inherit :)

Most likely your son inherited from him, through the female line (your wife) and then granted the title to his son. Probably due to him having low effeciency.

Edit: got Veld'ed .... got really Veld'ed!!
 
But my wife had no relation to my brother-in-law !

After bothering you people (and thanks for the advice from both of you), i fired up the game and had a look at those family trees, and this is what i'm speculating now:

Eudes (Brother-in-law) (Died)
Etienne (His son) (Dead)
This is where the speculation starts:
Thibaut (next in line to Eudes) had a daughter (?) before death and all four sons dead (????)

Robert (my son) married accidentaly Thibaut's daughter (?) and had a son
? Robert's son inherited through mother ?

How possible is this scenario ?

i don't have the save file to confirm this and i never even thought to check the dna because my first thought was him inheriting through male line, even though it seemed weird (i think William had proclaimed his right to rule by then and i didn't knew that you can't inherit sideways - thanks Veldmaarschalk)

That is a very likely scenario