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First, demesne size. (why the heck is it spelled that way, anyway?)

How can I tell how much demesne my king can rule at 100% eff. without going over it? I heard it was based off of intrigue, but is that 11 intrigue gives you 11 provinces, or what?

Second, I have a grandson courtier in my court. He's currently landless, and he shows up as if I can grant him a title. When I click on any of the count titles, however, the usual "yes or no" box doesn't popup, and thus I can't give him any titles. Is it because he's 15?
 
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OrangeYoshi said:
First, demesne size. (why the heck is it spelled that way, anyway?)

How can I tell how much demesne my king can rule at 100% eff. without going over it? I heard it was based off of stewardship, but is that 11 stewardship gives you 11 provinces, or what?

Second, I have a grandson courtier in my court. He's currently landless, and he shows up as if I can grant him a title. When I click on any of the count titles, however, the usual "yes or no" box doesn't popup, and thus I can't give him any titles. Is it because he's 15?
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Your Demesne limit is based on your Main - Highest Title, your own Intrigue rating and which Century the game is currently at.

A Count can control provinces equal to 1/4 of the Intrigue, Duke is 1/2 and King is 1:1. The year 1100 it adds 1, 1200 - 2, etc. If your main title is the Byzantine King title - it;s 2:1 (twice Intrigue Score). This is your actual Intrigue score that would show in the Save.game file, IE - your Intrigue could actually be 11.043 (after trait modifiers), which is why sometimes you might see a 95%.

As for your grandson, is he actually a fosterling at your Court? That is the only reason I could think of why you couldn't give him a Count title of his own (always assuming you have more than 1 province - you can never give away your only province). You did say Count titles, so it's not that you are trying to make him a Duke if he's not a Count already.

As for the spelling of Demesne, that's how it's spelled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demesne

Edit: Oh, and I forgot one thing, a quick and easy way to see how many provinces you can control at 100% efficiency, hover your mouse over the Gold Coin Icon at the top of the screen. A pop-up will appear which will show that info.
 
Wow, that's for the detailed info.

GJScarritt said:
As for your grandson, is he actually a fosterling at your Court? That is the only reason I could think of why you couldn't give him a Count title of his own (always assuming you have more than 1 province - you can never give away your only province). You did say Count titles, so it's not that you are trying to make him a Duke if he's not a Count already.
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You are correct. He's a fosterling in my court. I didn't know you couldn't grant fosterlings titles.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot one thing, a quick and easy way to see how many provinces you can control at 100% efficiency, hover your mouse over the Gold Coin Icon at the top of the screen. A pop-up will appear which will show that info.
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Ah, thanks. That makes it quick and easy.


Real quick, while I have someone's attention, what does a stewardship rating for the king mean, then? Does it effect the provincial income separately then the steward courtier does?
 
OrangeYoshi said:
Real quick, while I have someone's attention, what does a stewardship rating for the king mean, then? Does it effect the provincial income separately then the steward courtier does?
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For Stewardship, your Ruler and his Steward's stewardship stats are added together in determining how well your personal provinces do (in base wealth). How rich a province is equates into how many troops it will field. IE - the wealthier a province, the more troops you can get out of it, in addition to how much Gold you'll get each month to use in building stuff and supporting wars. Hover your mouse over the Coin Icon in the Province window for a breakdown of where the income comes from.

For Diplomacy, your Ruler and his Chancellor add the Diplomacy stat together which deal with the loyalty bonus per month of your Vassals (hover your mouse over the Loyalty number of your direct Vassals and your Courtiers to get a breakdown of how loyalty is figured).

The Intrigue of your Ruler and his SpyMaster are combined when it comes to the chances of success for assassinations and preventing the same (tho there is a high chance of failure even with high-stat on your side).

For Martial, it effects how fast province regiments refill. For battles, only the Martial stat of the Leader of an army counts. Normally, battles are determined by the rule of 'larger size is more likely to win' tho the Martial ratings of the Leaders of each side could be a deciding factor. If your King has a Martial of 3, he'd probably lose every battle he fights unless he has a large multiple of men compared to the enemy. Also, in any Army, the leader is the one with the highest Title (King is always the leader when he's involved), then Duke followed by Counts. Court Marshals are rarely the leader when you have multiple regiments combined, unless all of the regiment leaders are Unknowns or Marshals.

And finally, I've rambled on and on. My biggest bad trait. ;)
 
With regards to granting titles, is there any reason for me to grant Duchy titles?

I mean, that if I claim the King of Ireland title, I will still get bonus prestige for holding Duchy titles, and the more the better right?

So why give them away? Why not just have the King of Ireland hold all Irish Duchy titles at the same time.

I know giving them away slightly reduces BB, but if BB is not a factor then what?

Also, if I do give them to some minions, then do I still get the Prestige bonus from having them in my realm. So if I get +0.1 Prestige for being a Duke, will I still get that +0.1 Prestige if I become a King and grant that title to my son, or cousin or whatever.
 
If you are a King granting Ducal titles can help you gain prestige. As a king, king titles and vassal duchies give you prestige, possessing a duke title as a king gives you no prestige.
 
Ah I see. Then I shall be generous to my sons. Thanks.
 
Yes, count vassals give you no prestige as a king, and you will want to keep the number of vassals as low as possible. It is easier to manage 5 dukes than 24 counts. Also in regards to your heir(s), you will want him/them to have as much prestige as possible when they ascend the throne, and if they hold Ducal titles and have count vassals they will get a whole lot more than just being counts.
 
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