Request: legacy difficulty

[SillySMS]

Hello,

I'm not sure if this has been made yet or not, but: is there a mod that restores some of the difficulty from legacy versions of the game? Unfortunately, Steam likes to auto-update the game for me... and there are things about the newer versions I generally like (such as displaying dust ranges).

Some changes I imagine would just be setting values back to what they were before (60 rocket fuel, more concrete to build certain buildings), but some I imagine would require moderately complex coding, like re-introducing rover batteries.

Thank you.

 

[ChoGGi_2]

I'll see about doing a battery mod, but if you want to make a list of values, it'll be easy enough to stick them in a mod for you.

 

[SillySMS]

Thanks bunches! I know it's easier said than done... and I'm not sure where to start. At least with KSP, I know how to write a basic Module Manager patch.

Values are taken from https://survivingmars.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Building&oldid=2232 (thank you wiki for having version history!). The vast majority of these values are increases vs. the current version; the handful of decreases are noted.

Rover charge: Values quite possibly rounded by the UI: 3%/hour when moving (6% over cold terrain). Restored 20%/hour when on-grid. Rover Command AI eliminates the mechanic (which is about when you tended to have enough rovers for it to be a PITA anyways).

Rocket fuel: 60 (40 w/ Advanced Martian Engines)
Electronics factory maintenance: 3 electronics

Large Solar Panel: 4 metal
Stirling Generator: 12 polymers/6 electronics
Fusion Reactor: 40 concrete/20 polymers/20 electronics
Power Accumulator: 3 concrete/2 polymers

Concrete Extractor: 6 metals/2 machine parts
Metals Extractor: 20 concrete/5 machine parts
Drone Assembler: 20 metal/10 electronics
Rare Metals Extractor: 20 metal/5 machine parts
Fuel Refinery: 5 concrete/5 metals/5 machine parts

MOXIE: 5 metals
Moisture Vaporator: 2 metals/3 polymers (decrease from 5 polymers)

Trigon Dome: 100 concrete/60 metals/15 polymers
Medium Dome: 150 concrete/80 metals/25 polymers
Mega Trigon Dome: 200 concrete/150 metals/120 polymers

Arcology: 80 concrete/10 polymers
Cloning Vat: 50 metals/20 polymers/10 electronics
Medical Center: 30 concrete/30 metals
Network Node: 40 concrete/30 metals/20 electronics (decrease from 40 metals)
Sanatorium: 50 concrete/20 metals/10 polymers
Water Reclamation System: 50 concrete/10 polymers/5 machine parts

Living quarters: 15 concrete (from memory)
Apartments: 35 concrete/10 polymers (from memory: possibly unchanged. Can you guess I haven't built any in the Sagan update yet?)
Smart homes/complexes: unknown

Spacebar: 15 concrete/10 metals
Diner: 10 concrete/5 metals
Infirmary: 15 concrete
Open Air Gym: 10 metals/8 polymers
Casino Complex: 40 concrete/20 electronics
Security Station: 15 concrete/5 metals
Grocer: 10 concrete
Art Store: 10 concrete/2 polymers
Electronics Store: 10 concrete/3 electronics

The workshops may also originally have costed 16 concrete+5 advanced, but that may also be an artifact of somebody reporting values with Mars Noveau.

 

[ChoGGi_2]

The costs will be easy enough. I forgot I've still got the original lua files around, so I'll grab the values for all the buildings and use them?
Fuel also shouldn't be much trouble.

I took a look at the amount of code needed to re-add batteries... I doubt I'm going to do that

 

[SillySMS]

Whatever works for you. For that matter, so long as the mod is something remotely resembling plain text, it shouldn't be that hard to just edit or copy-paste what you come up with.

Batteries... yeah. There's a shred of a possibility Haemimont left some sort of code hook, sort of a "flip this boolean to re-enable this behavior", but honestly it's probably better software management to delete obsolete sections of code so they don't cause problems further down the line... plus, IIRC, they have a Git repository, which keeps all the source code history anyways.

 

[ChoGGi_2]

I'll make sure to comment it.

Batteries... No they removed all the battery code, wouldn't be too hard to add it back, but I'd also have to add/edit all the XTemplates as well, and I feel some rockstar programmer decided XTemplates were a good idea...

 

[ChoGGi_2]

Didn't really need any comments, just open up Script.lua and have at it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1528548594

IIRC, they have a Git repository, which keeps all the source code history anyways.

Their git repo doesn't include the original release though.

 

[SillySMS]

Was finishing up a game without the mod, but just got it up and running for my new game. Thanks for the work on this: resource costs look like they're back to where they were originally.

 

[SillySMS]

So, for anybody else who may want to use the mod ChoGGi made on my request:

1) You need to restart Surviving Mars for it to start and stop having effect.
2) Not recommended to try to start or stop using it in the middle of a save game.
3) You get a really amusing glitch if you start a game and load less than 10 fuel onto a rocket, unload the mod, restart the game, and find that you have negative fuel onboard your rocket.