savegame - title_ex_ruler

veritas · Nov 30, 2008

In a savegame i found this:
The ruler title gets changed everyday for a few years.

Code:

    100040={
        name="Lucius Cornelius Scipio"
        historical=yes
        country="ROM"
        home_country="ROM"
        province=93
        birth_date={
            year=450
            month=0
            day=0
        }
        death_date={
            year=1
            month=0
            day=0
        }
        last_ruler_term={
            year=511
            month=4
            day=0
        }
        children={
{
                id=603225
                type=44
            }
{
                id=603326
                type=44
            }
        }
        attributes={
            martial=5
            finesse=4
            charisma=5
        }
        spouse={
{
                id=603178
                type=44
            }
        }
        trait="content"
        trait="proud"
        trait="assertive"
        trait="modest"
        trait="energetic"
        trait="forgiving"
        trait="generous"
        trait="suspicious"
        trait="just"
        trait="steadfast"
        title={
            id=32
            date={
                year=505
                month=5
                day=26
            }
        }
        title={
            id=19
            date={
                year=511
                month=3
                day=29
            }
        }
        loyalty=100.000
        popularity=100.000
        wealth=12336.528
        corruption=0.100
        prominence=100.000
        fertility=0.500
        health=1.000
        religion="roman_pantheon"
        culture="roman"
        friends={
{
                id=100025
                type=44
            }
{
                id=601965
                type=44
            }
{
                id=100042
                type=44
            }
        }
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                event={                id={
                    id=4505
                    type=40
                }
                scope={
                    char={
                        id=100040
                        type=44
                    }

                    seed=1873603851
                }
}
            }
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                    id=4210
                    type=40
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                option=1
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                        id=100040
                        type=44
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                    seed=1017224523
                }
}
            }
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                    id=3040
                    type=40
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                        id=100040
                        type=44
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                    seed=2118581948
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}
            }
            480.10.18={
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                    id=4205
                    type=40
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                        id=100040
                        type=44
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                    seed=663801844
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}
            }
            483.2.14={
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                    id=7300
                    type=40
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                        type=44
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                    seed=646051070
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}
            }
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                        type=44
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                        type=44
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                        type=44
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}
            }
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                    id=5039
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                        type=44
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}
            }
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                    id=4506
                    type=40
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                        type=44
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}
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                    id=4503
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                        type=44
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                    seed=941257665
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}
            }
            493.5.5={
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            }
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            }
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            }
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            }
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                    id=7905
                    type=40
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                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.22={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.23={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.23={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.24={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.24={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.25={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.25={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.26={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.26={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.27={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.27={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.28={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.28={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.29={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.29={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.30={
                remove_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.4.30={
                give_title="title_ex_ruler"
            }
            511.5.1={
                give_title="title_pro_ruler"
            }
            512.5.1={
                remove_title="title_pro_ruler"
            }
            515.12.25={
                give_title="title_general"
            }
            516.8.1={
                event={                id={
                    id=507
                    type=40
                }
                scope={
                    char={
                        id=100040
                        type=44
                    }

                    seed=1066953135
                }
}
            }
            516.8.5={
                remove_title="title_general"
            }
        }
        family_name="cornelii"
        dna="iahbdeldl"
        flags={
            trade_restriction=yes
        }
        last_victory={
            year=516
            month=7
            day=0
        }
        military_party=0.000
        mercantile_party=0.000
        religious_party=0.000
        civic_party=0.000
        populist_party=100.000
    }

Silktrader · Nov 30, 2008

It's a bug indeed, and it happens when a given character gets appointed as ruler for a second time.

It was previously reported. Thank You.

mate0815 · Dec 1, 2008

its easy to fix and now a part of the unofficial hotfixes minimod v0.4.

for fix by your own, open common/titles.txt and add the red line to the triggers

Code:

title_ex_ruler = {
	gain_trigger = {
		is_previous_ruler = yes # Nice Auto-gain for new games
		[COLOR=Red]is_ruler = no[/COLOR]
		NOT = { has_title = title_pro_ruler }
	}
	lose_trigger = {
		is_ruler = yes
	}
	monthly_character_wealth = 0.1
	max_friends = 2
	max_rivals = 2
	prominence = 10
}

leefbern · Dec 8, 2008

Even with the 1.4 unofficial hotfix I am seeing similar, daily log spew involving chiefs gaining and losing their title, e.g.:

Code:

    260001={
        name="Pharnavaz"
        historical=yes
        country="COL"
        home_country="IBR"
[...]
        title={
            id=17
            date={
                year=494
                month=8
                day=18
            }
        }
[...]
        history={
            474.12.10={
                who="COL"
            }
            493.5.4={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.4={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.5={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.5={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.6={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.6={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.7={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.7={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.8={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.8={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.9={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.9={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.10={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.10={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.11={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.11={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.12={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.12={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.13={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.13={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.14={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.14={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.15={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.15={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.16={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.16={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.17={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.17={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.18={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.18={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.19={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.19={
                give_title="title_clan_chief"
            }
            493.5.20={
                remove_title="title_clan_chief"
            }

Is this fixable? The increase in the save game file seems to accompany a slowdown of the interface, especially the character viewer.

Silktrader · Dec 8, 2008

Yes, it's acknowledged: it also happens for party leaders (title), for instance. Thanks for mentioning though.

Silktrader · Dec 8, 2008

Sorry, I hadn't read the "is it fixable" question. The issue lays with the character emigrating, in Your case: that is Pharnavaz, ruler of Iberia - which You (or somebody else) probably annexed.

This one may be fixable, You can try to add: "country = { government = tribal }" in the "gain_trigger" block, line 784 @ /common/titles.txt - check whether that helps. I can't see the whole character's history, so it's not obvious to pinpoint the issue - just know that it will be solved come next patch.

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