Will Scotland be divided up into individual clan territories in CK? And you're not going to forget William Wallace and Robert the Bruce are you? 
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as long as i can have my Duncan McLeod Of clan McLeod..living forever, naturally
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That would be neet, but will that dynastic system work with the situation in Scotland?
I have not a clue, thus I'm asking...
I have not a clue, thus I'm asking...
There will always have to be simplifications, even to a complex game as this... Couldn't it work with counts="clan chiefs"?
Hopefully they will adjust the system so it suits for the non-feudal (or to a lesser degree feudal) areas. It's maybe to early to speculate about
Scotland had its earls, just like England, so the feudal situation there won't be much different, although Scotland will be much more decentralized presumably. The clan chiefs will probably in game terms be the same as the nobility of other countries, though probably a lot more unruly than most.
Has Paradox said what the granularity of playable thingy is?
That is, can you play Kings, Counts, Earls, Dukes? Probably yes to all. What about some lowly Baron with a small demesne and such?
Edit: Never mind. I saw Patric's post about it. Empires, Kingdoms, and independent Duchies.
That is, can you play Kings, Counts, Earls, Dukes? Probably yes to all. What about some lowly Baron with a small demesne and such?
Edit: Never mind. I saw Patric's post about it. Empires, Kingdoms, and independent Duchies.
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it is a long time since i saw the highlander the last time.. and names are my nr1 confusion-cause.. But i was quite certain that his name was duncan..
Oh now i figured you out Connor is the evil twin in a movie yet to come here to finland.
Connor is the evil twin in a movie yet to come here to finland.
Well, it's Connor MacLeod (played by Christopher Lambert) in the first three movies. Duncan (played by Adrian Paul) is the protagonist of the TV-series. Connor and Duncan show up together in the fourth movie (Highlander: Endgame), which was done after the TV-show. They are brothers, by the way.
Individual scottish lords should have a fairly low "Loyalty" rating, and try to take oppertunities to rebel.....
Scottish earls were notoriously rapacious and untrustworthy after the death of Alexander III (who wasn't that great a king, but at least everyone agreed he was king). Robert Bruce ended up spending most of his life 1) excommunicate and 2) at war, and it was only the timely death of Edward Longshanks and the accession of his wastrel son Eddy II that allowed Scotland to become a country. Of course, the monarchy remained shaky from that point on, due to the conflict of interest most Scots nobles suffered from owning land in both England and Scotland.
An interesting (although somewhat temporally removed analysis)of the inconstant Scots border lord can be found in The Steel Bonnets, by George MacDonald Fraser. Also, Magnus Magnusson's history of Scotland is quite useful.
An interesting (although somewhat temporally removed analysis)of the inconstant Scots border lord can be found in The Steel Bonnets, by George MacDonald Fraser. Also, Magnus Magnusson's history of Scotland is quite useful.
Just in case you are interested here's a wee fact. Scottish land holding rules are currently going under there first revision since the 12th centuary. The rules today are still considered fuedal, so I guess Scotland was pretty fuedal back then as well. For those of you who are interested here is a link
If I am not mistaken, the clan society was already confied to the glens and North-West by 1066 and the Douglases etc were more or less just the ordinary breed of unruly aristocrats. So I don't ´think it that necessary to provide for an extra clan system for Scotland. After all, if you start there, then you're compelled to model the non-feudal (or less feudal) societies in remoter parts of Europe, not just the Scottish Highlands.
However, CK should see an independent Lord of the Isles (a MacDonald, most of the time, I believe) on the Western Coast, with his capital on Islay - I believe, and being a liegeman of the Norwegian crown. For the Scottish clans, it should suffice making them quite unruly and feuding most of the time, but that doesn't set them that much apart from other nobles round Europe.
However, CK should see an independent Lord of the Isles (a MacDonald, most of the time, I believe) on the Western Coast, with his capital on Islay - I believe, and being a liegeman of the Norwegian crown. For the Scottish clans, it should suffice making them quite unruly and feuding most of the time, but that doesn't set them that much apart from other nobles round Europe.
Indeed, there should be a Lord of the Isles. The MacDonalds were not subordinate to the Norwegian crown though - Sumerlede, the founder of the MacDonald dynasty, kicked the Norwegians out in the 13th century IIRC. Their seat was on Islay. I was there last summer...