Secede province command doesn't lower BB

[swilhelm73]

Playing as the Ottomans I went out of my way to help the Russians get the Tsar of all Slavs event.

After it triggered, and I seceded a large number of provinces, I got no reduction in BB.

If losing a province in war is supposed to lower BB, having an event force you to lose a province in war should also.

 

[aprof]

The event would need to have a command line in it to lower the badboy as it's not an automatic feature of the secedeprovince command.

command = { type = badboy value = -x }

 

[swilhelm73]

The event would need to have a command line in it to lower the badboy as it's not an automatic feature of the secedeprovince command.

command = { type = badboy value = -x }

My point though is, shouldn't it?

 

[unmerged(31835)]

imo you shouldnt lose BB at all for losing provinces in a war or an event like the ToaS. it just doesnt make much sense. lets say russia overruns all of germany and gets loads of BB, the other GPs DOW and take land from them. why should they consider the russians less evil just because they took some provinces from them?

 

[aprof]

My point though is, shouldn't it?

Yes I agree; what you say makes sense. So add that command to the event and set the value to be what you think is appropriate.

 

[aprof]

imo you shouldnt lose BB at all for losing provinces in a war or an event like the ToaS. it just doesnt make much sense. lets say russia overruns all of germany and gets loads of BB, the other GPs DOW and take land from them. why should they consider the russians less evil just because they took some provinces from them?

Because the loss of those provinces has put Russia in its place. The balance of power has been restored - all's right with the world.

I'm not being facetious, here - that's the way the Victorian countries worked. That's why Britain and France leapt to help the Ottoman Empire so often - to let that great power be destroyed would have upset the whole equation. The Victorians didn't 'demonize' their fellow great powers; they tended to think of them as being undisciplined children that needed to be set straight. Only with WWI - because of the carnage and length of the war - did nations begin to think that the enemy was something other than a brother gone astray.

 

[unmerged(31835)]

though i think the other GPs would then have a closer eye on russia than before to make sure they wont do something similar again. imo your BB should be decreased when losing a province, though not as much as making a satelite does, maybe only 0.5 instead of 1 per province.

 

[Varyar]

though i think the other GPs would then have a closer eye on russia than before to make sure they wont do something similar again. imo your BB should be decreased when losing a province, though not as much as making a satelite does, maybe only 0.5 instead of 1 per province.

Keep in mind that giving away provinces as a result of losing a war nets -1 BB per province, while conquering non-core provinces from civilized countries during regular war nets +2 BB points per province. So if Russia took say 8 provinces from Prussia they would've got 16 BB, and when the GP's took back those 8 provinces Russia would only lose 8 BB, leaving them with no provinces but +8 BB, in effect the "closer eye" which you speak of.

Regarding the original question: yes, that event command should lower BB.