Semi-Salic Premogeniture

[SonofWinter]

This really needs to be fixed. Unlike me, any of my Dukes who does not have a 'Son' automatically chooses this option. That is not a problem, the problem is that the family dynasty, that I have put in place does not inherit the lands. The Duke dies and his three cousins, who rule counties in his lands, can't inherit, but some Duke or Count in another Kingdom can now inherit. This is stupid, when the family line continues to live on.

 

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This really needs to be fixed. Unlike me, any of my Dukes who does not have a 'Son' automatically chooses this option. That is not a problem, the problem is that the family dynasty, that I have put in place does not inherit the lands. The Duke dies and his three cousins, who rule counties in his lands, can't inherit, but some Duke or Count in another Kingdom can now inherit. This is stupid, when the family line continues to live on.

The order of succession in Semi-Salic Primogenture are male descendants first and female descendants second. Since your Duke had descendants from a female line they were entitled to inherit his lands.

 

[SonofWinter]

The order of succession in Semi-Salic Primogenture are male descendants first and female descendants second. Since your Duke had descendants from a female line they were entitled to inherit his lands.

I know how it works, so please don't explain it to me. It is a bug. The Duke has 3 sons, son 1 inherits the Duchy, but his brothers were placed as counts of the two remaining counties. Duke changes law to semi-salic Primogeniture. Now the sons of his daughters inherit, before the two brothers do. That is a bug, a daughter's son, only inherits, if the line of males is completely erradicated, (very rare, by-the-way).

So next time, you want to explain something to someone, make sure you know what you are talking about, before you assume they are wrong.

 

[Solmyr]

I know how it works, so please don't explain it to me. It is a bug. The Duke has 3 sons, son 1 inherits the Duchy, but his brothers were placed as counts of the two remaining counties. Duke changes law to semi-salic Primogeniture. Now the sons of his daughters inherit, before the two brothers do. That is a bug, a daughter's son, only inherits, if the line of males is completely erradicated, (very rare, by-the-way).

Actually, no, that's not how semisalic primogeniture works. If you have both daughters and brothers, then your daughters take precedence (children are ahead of siblings in semisalic inheritance). Your brothers will only inherit in salic.

 

[Kliwarrior]

This really needs to be fixed. Unlike me, any of my Dukes who does not have a 'Son' automatically chooses this option. That is not a problem, the problem is that the family dynasty, that I have put in place does not inherit the lands.

More than a bug, this sound like an AI related issue.
Perhaps AI should shift from salic to semisalic only if he has no sons, no grandchild and no living brothers.

IMHO this make more sense.

You could object that the dinasty will be safe also if the Duke has some cousins, but I'd prefer to favorite my daughter (is nothing better is available) before a cousin, than shift to semi-salic.

ciao ciao

 

[Havard]

This really needs to be fixed. Unlike me, any of my Dukes who does not have a 'Son' automatically chooses this option. That is not a problem, the problem is that the family dynasty, that I have put in place does not inherit the lands. The Duke dies and his three cousins, who rule counties in his lands, can't inherit, but some Duke or Count in another Kingdom can now inherit. This is stupid, when the family line continues to live on.

But is it a bug? I'd say not...

 

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But is it a bug? I'd say not...

Sounds like an AI-Logic bug maybe.

 

[Solmyr]

All newly created domains have semisalic primogeniture (and traditional custom, and ecclesiastical balance) as "default" laws. Furthermore, even domains that start the scenario with something different (France, Byzantium, the Russian principalities) will sooner or later switch to semisalic primogeniture. What should really be done is teaching the AI to choose the best suitable inheritance (and other) law for the situation...