Simple guide to PU Ming in Ironman without exploits in 10 steps

[pmpdadypenguinmn]

HOW TO PU MING AND NOT BE TROLLING WHEN YOU SAY THAT

Step 1. Conquer Ming
Step 2. Convert land to Christian faith that allows for PU's while conquering Ming
Step 3. When Ming is full annexed and enough land has been converted. Release Ming as a vassal following said Christian faith
Step 4. Place relative on Ming's throne. His newborn heir will most likely have a weak claim.
Step 5. Improve relations and Influence for trust
Step 6. Wait 5 years for truce with disloyal Ming vassal to end, improve relations the entire time.
Step 7. Once the truce ends. Break vassalization. Because Ming was disloyal, he won't be upset that you abandoned him. And since you influenced and improved relations, he has good relations with you
Step 8. Get royal marriage and claim throne.
Step 9. TRUCE BREAK
Step 10. Beat him down like he stole something and get that ever coveted PU on Ironman, with achievements still enabled.

 

[RMS Oceanic]

That's kinda cool, but I think any strategy to PU a nation that requires conquering them entirely first is a little overkill.

 

[pmpdadypenguinmn]

That's kinda cool, but I think any strategy to PU a nation that requires conquering them entirely first is a little overkill.

Going through the trouble of doing all of that is more for the memes. And wanting a Ming PU. The bugs that allowed a Ming PU through other means have been patched. I'm not saying it's practical. But if you wanted to do an ironman world conquest run with Ulm having Ming under a PU. You totally can. And really, that should be an achievement. Ulm one tag with a Ming PU. Call it the ultimate meme achievement