Social Granularity

[peleliu]

I play CK2 as a roleplayer and have long wanted the social system to be more detailed to further immersion. I am hoping for more distinctions of the social rankings and the ability to move characters and families up or down the social ladder through the generations in addition to cadet branches so many have asked for. I was hoping for social progressions something like:

Commoner - gentleman (wealthy commoner) - unlanded noble - unlanded knight - landed knight - baronet - baron/bishop - count/bishop - duke/archbishop...etc. Throw in abbots and abbotesses for good measure. Courts should be a mix of these social ranks. How about even add some new court positions too below council rank. Perhaps seneschals to manage each of your personal demenses?

Also, I hope we have the ability to knight commoners for battlefield heroism or require that council members be of some minimum social standing for the position they hold.

Divided and confused loyalties between vassals and lieges should play a bigger role. Think circles within circles. People have brought up the example of English loyalties in the Middle Ages. Norman vs English barons, split Norman-English holdings, baron vs baron, barons vs king, English fealty to the French king, English conflict with the Church, toss in some crusades, border friction, and a few uppity bastards...what a lovely mess. I hope these complex issues will be more deeply simulated in CK3.

Anyway, looking forward to CK3 despite my disappointment with Imperator. Please don't burn me again.

 

[Arona]

To addition to this, every barony should have Some estate slots what can be given out, and minor nobles or gentry can develop there. Giva a economic impact and also later military impact. Estates shoulnt realy be as important than landed titles but but still showing some posion. And estats should be develop within time to even rival baronys.

CK2 republic estate syem was intresting but problem was there was only one and it moved as capital moved. Estates hould be at free market, once they are given out by lord they can be sold and traded by lower courtiers who wish to move a other county or leave from country. This would also be nice represention of wealt and courtiers can make something useful with they monet rater than pay 5 year income to bribe somone to invite plot or spend some pointless event.