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First off, two recommendations on some very good books on Byzantium:

The Making of Byzantium, 600-1025, Mark Whittow

A very interesting book, it explains the transition of the Empire from an cosmopolitan Eastern Roman Empire to a more Greek oriented Byzantine Empire. Excellent chapters on strategic geography of the region, the outlook of the empire in 600, what went wrong during the Arab invasions, how the Empire survived, later thrived and went on the counter offensive in the 900's.

Byzantium and Its Army, 284-1081, Warren Treadgold

An excellent study of neglected subject. It explains the history, manpower, pay, organization, relationship to the society/state, etc. The most interesting part is near the end, where the author convincingly explains what went wrong after 1025, considered the peak of Byzantine power.

Related to this, a poster elsewhere stated that if the game were realistic the Byzantines should have a lot of trouble with the Seljuks. Treadgold above would disagree. According to Treadgold, after the death of Basil II in 1025, his successors were not interested in really expanding the empire, most were not warlike and they let part of the army decline.

The key problem was the army was too large for a pure defensive force and part of it needed to be demobilized due to expense. However, a large part of the army had been garrisoning Anatolia for decades, had never fought and was unlikely to fight. Yet if demobilized they would be expected to start paying taxes - yet why should they pay taxes when they hadn't been fighting anyway? This would cause a political uproar. So one of the Byzantine Emperors instead decided to disband the Armemian armies, who were very well trained veteran troops (they had defeated the Seljuks as recently as 1048!), who could reasonably be expected to pay taxes in lieu of the fighting they had been doing.

The problem was the Anatolian units were in no shape to fight and to defend the Armenian frontier. This left the "backdoor" open, and after Manzikert in 1071, the Seljuks poured into Anatolia from Armenia, an area never considered a real area of threat by the Empire - the Persians and Arabs had never attacked through Armenia in all the centuries of warfare in the East. Interestingly enough, the "frontdoor" in Syria/Mesopotamia, where the Byzantines always worried and strongly defended, held out for years after Manzikert. You had the odd situation of Seljuks controlling most of Asia Minor (taking Nicea in 1081) while the Byzantine armies in the East held out in Antioch until 1084, Edessa in 1086, and Cilicia was held by Armenian troops and was never taken by the Seljuks!

There was really no reason why the Empire had to collapse in 1071. It was strong, it's armies still powerful (they took Edessa in 1031, defeated the Seljuks in 1048 and its Armenian allies destroyed a Turkish raiding army in 1057). The Seljuks were not invulnerable. Romanus could have beaten them at Manzikert if his reserves had advanced to catch the Seljuks in the rear as they attempted to surround his advance force, instead of being betrayed by political opponents in his army. The Empire just demobilized a large portion of its veteran troops at the wrong time - and paid dearly for it.

Grifman
 
Ah another Treadgold fan. He has got a lot of good points.

But anyway if you are interested he has an even better book on Byzantium called

A history of the Byzantine state and society.

It´s great reading.
 
I can recommend a couple of books by

Donald M Nichol

Byzantium and Venice

this book traces the diplomatic, cultural and commercial links between Constantinople and Venice from the foundation of the Venetian Republic to the fall of Constantinople.



The Despotate of Epiros, 1267-1479

not so well known subject, but very interesting

The End of the Byzantine Empire

The title says it all I guess
 
Guys, what's the standard work in the field? How has histiography seen the Byzantine Empire? I bought Norwich's concise edition recently and it appears that he is more sympathetic than say Gibbon. How do the above mentioned works compare and differ?
 
Norwich is a historiographer; Tredagold a historian. My colleagues and bosses at Dumbarton Oaks used to prefer primary sources to either of them, but the revered Dr. Aleksandr Kazhdan (the GREATEST of Byz scholars) told me once that if I was interested in gossip to read Norwich, and if you were interested in economics to read Treadgold. Norwich is a little more accessible, but i would recommend reading all three of his volumes rather than the shortened one; if you're looking for a one-volume, go with Treadgold.

Most of the modern writers are sympathetic (could be that they're not quite so anti-Xian as Gibbon).
 
Thanks for the insight. I am however afraid that it is easier to say "Read three books and triple the amount" than actually doing so. Thus, if Norwich is good, then the concise version should equally be of use. Further, as a poor student, I hesitate to fork out the cost for three books for this particular subject. I gather he's more anecdotal and less analytical than others. I'll see whether his style appeals to me and thank you for the advice on Trebigold.
 
Originally posted by Clemens August
Thanks for the insight. I am however afraid that it is easier to say "Read three books and triple the amount" than actually doing so. Thus, if Norwich is good, then the concise version should equally be of use. Further, as a poor student, I hesitate to fork out the cost for three books for this particular subject. I gather he's more anecdotal and less analytical than others. I'll see whether his style appeals to me and thank you for the advice on Trebigold.

As a poor student myself I would go with Treadgold. It´s easy enough reading and I can´t find any problems with his reasoning. I haven´t read Gibbon but from what I gather Treadgold is a bit more positive about the empire as a whole. Also I think Treadgolds work is the most current and dispute a lot of the older theories.
 
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In addition to Norwich, who is my favorite Byzantine scholar if only for his predeliction to the more scandalous and personal aspects of its Imperial administration, I would suggest, on a slightly drier but equally fascinating note, Ostrogorsky's 'History of the Byzantine State', which approaches it from a more overtly political viewpoint. Fantastic reading, if lengthy, though nowhere near so as Norwich's trilogy. Lord Norwich's meisterwork can also be found in an abbreviated form in 'A Short History of Byzantium', which is equally useful for those who wish to cut past the minutae.
 
Norwich's concise version is rather abrupt, and lacks the felicity of style that the three volume work has. Besides, it's not like the book is going anywhere. :) Ostrogorsky is good, but he's all politics (and highly technical about the politics to boot).
 
Originally posted by Joachim I
In addition to Norwich, who is my favorite Byzantine scholar if only for his predeliction to the more scandalous and personal aspects of its Imperial administration, I would suggest, on a slightly drier but equally fascinating note, Ostrogorsky's 'History of the Byzantine State', which approaches it from a more overtly political viewpoint. Fantastic reading, if lengthy, though nowhere near so as Norwich's trilogy. Lord Norwich's meisterwork can also be found in an abbreviated form in 'A Short History of Byzantium', which is equally useful for those who wish to cut past the minutae.

I saw a book of Ostrogorsky just the other day.
I think the title was "The Commonwealth of Bysanz" or somtehing like that.
Is it perhaps the same book?
 
Anyone who has read Norwich's Byzantine books should also check out his books on the Norman Kingdom of Sicily. They have recently be re-released in an all-in-one volume "The Normans in Sicily". They are as good as a read as his Byzantine books, and, since the Kingdom of Sicily and the Byzaninte Empire were often rivals, the two histories often dovetail, so you sometimes get interesting perspectives of the same event from different points of view...
 
Originally posted by dunkel
Yeah, all this scholar stuff is great...but will Byzantium be playable or not?

Well, it qualifies according to what we have been told - Christian and an Empire.:)
 
Originally posted by Wulfram
John Julius Norwich's Byzantium: the Decline and Fall is good. It's got good information, and he is enjoyable to read too.

i agree this one is not bad.:)
 
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I read Gibbon recently and I must say it was pretty entertaining. He clearly has the agenda of showing the Byzantine Empire as nothing but a poor imitation of ancient Greece and Rome. His hypothesis is that the empire was just a rarely broken decline of 1000 years (some emperors were able to temporarily arrest the decline) with "not one original contribution to human knowledge or culture" or something to that effect. My favorite parts included how he seemed to insinuate that the Byzantines were cowards because they hid behind a strong navy (a bizarre thing for an Englishman to accuse of others then perhaps he believed his own countrymen to be cowards as well?) and even though they were zealous religious fanatics they allied with the saracens against the christians...and even though he claims the Byzantine people were just mindless servile slaves to their Emperor that same Emporer could never seem to get them to convert to Catholicism. Basically the Byzantines could never do right by Gibbon though he seems to have liked the Commnenus family (at least Alexius, John and Manuel) well enough.

His work is one of the finest 18th century efforts and a classic though. You can really see how his style and methods have affected historical writing since and it is still an enjoyable read.