Spain & Abraham

[bestmajor]

ok i thought a bit before i post this.

i do not have any save game to reproduce this; on top i heavily modified the (possibly) affected files - so this could be just a possible bug (self made).


this is what happened: i was playing as germany and everything went historically (poland, low lands, norway, vichy, YUG, GRE)

i waited until SOV attacks GER (me), as SPA and POR offer alliance then (i know thats gamey)

however when i had military control over SPA (nationalist spain - maybe 1942/1943) they had the German general Abraham (ID: 1 / L1) in their line up of leaders - no event made this and i was not sending troops. this one was missing in my pool of leaders, but was in the CSV (and not in the spanish CSV).

so i'm sure sth is wrong there but cant offer a save game - maybe others can post this / check this?

thanks

EDIT: what is needed is a save game of the early 40s where spain is in axis or neutral - just check if spain has a leader called Abraham please

 

[Cally]

When the Spanish Civil War happened, did you send aid? That sends some leaders to Spain. I think that might be the case here.

 

[elizibar]

I once had a game where Syrian leaders ended up in command of German troops fighting in the Suez region, while Syrian divisions were part of the British Army - and Syria still existed (and was at war with the Allies)

So I have no idea what causes that kind of behavior, but sometimes weird things can happen. My experience has been that the weirdness is usually related to middle eastern countries, but... who knows.

Anyway, I just checked the 1939 scenario and the nationalist spanish don't have Abraham.

 

[bestmajor]

@Cally no it doesnt:

#########################################################################
# Spanish Civil War - Intervention
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2023
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
government = fascist
war = { country = SPA country = SPR }
event = 3100 #SPA fascist nation
NOT = {
OR = {
war = { country = GER country = SPA }
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
war = { country = GER country = ENG }
war = { country = GER country = USA }
}
}
}

name = "EVT_2023_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2023_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "SCW_German_Intervention"

date = { day = 19 month = july year = 1936 }
offset = 5
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1999 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2023A" # Send materiel and volunteers
ai_chance = 97
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = SPR value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = ITA value = 5 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = supplies value = -1000 } # % of max daily income
command = { type = money value = -200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 3002 } #SPA
command = { type = trigger which = 3719 } #USA
command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2023B" # Franco needs no aid
ai_chance = 3
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = SPR value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = ITA value = -5 }
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = -1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 3105 } #SPR
}
}

Sperrle and Richthofen are already in the spanish leaders CSV while Abraham isnt and he wasnt sent. also no exp forces.

I once had a game where Syrian leaders ended up in command of German troops fighting in the Suez region, while Syrian divisions were part of the British Army - and Syria still existed (and was at war with the Allies)

So I have no idea what causes that kind of behavior, but sometimes weird things can happen. My experience has been that the weirdness is usually related to middle eastern countries, but... who knows.

i think some stay if exp foces are sent to a country, or via event (the croatian guy when germany gets its croatian divisions) - that (bug?) is know i think, same for Thai admirals who end up in germanies or japans pool after their units have been sent as exp forces.