Stealth events: possible?

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Ok, let's say I want to do something like giving certain characters a tiny little extra piety or prestige every few months.

Say, piety. It seems to me strange, for example, that the courtier holding the office of royal chaplain gets no piety whatsoever out of that. (Other than if I make him an archbishop of some archbishopric, but then he disappears off my courtiers list.)

So let's say I want to give characters 1 point of piety, and how often it happens, depends on their traits and office. Possibly on the realm policy too. So for example a sceptical detached priest with no office, might get it once a year or two. A zealous theology mastermind, who also happens to be the royal chaplain, would get it every 1 or 2 months.

Would hardly break the game with that, IMHO, seein' as for most characters their ecclesiastical education gives more than that, and they keep it even if thereafter they go on to embody all 7 deadly sins. I figure someone actually leading a pious life, deserves a few points extra.

And therein lies my problem too. If the player has a dozen kids with religious education, I don't want to spam the player with 2-3 pop-ups per month. Not for 1 point of piety to a courtier. Not worth the annoyance.

So is there a way to tell CK "add 1 point of piety and shut up?"

 

[Major Sharpe]

Certainly you could do it. Would be easier if you did it all as one event, and then made is detacthed priest, martial cleric have modifiers to increase the frequency the event fires.

The every month or so would be a problem, since the dynamic event system only fires every 90 or so days. would be better if you made the MTTH 1 year to give 12 piety, with a modifier of 1 for martial cleric and 4 (say) for deteched priest, giving you effectivly an average piety of 1 per month for mertial clerics, and 3 per year for detatched priests

 

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Well, the modifier is precisely what I had in mind.

The question was if I can make it not spam the player with popups. I.e., not display an even window at all. Just add the piety stealthily.

The thought of having larger chunks of piety given at larger intervals has crossed my mind too. In fact, that's what I'm doing now: more major events (miracles, visions,revelations and the like) which give a larger chunks with a MTTH of 4 years for the court bishop, and different values for the different ranks. So the detached priest gets 25 roughly every 4 years, martial cleric gets 50, scholarly theologian gets 100, while the mastermind theologian gets 200.

Still causes some popups, though, if I try to apply that to all priestly courtiers. Most of which are probably meaningless for someone playing the ruler. I mean, so my marshall's nephew's wife got a +25 piety. I'm glad for her and all, but not exactly something I absolutely needed to know.

I can't make her the court's bishop anyway, on account of, well, being a her. The Pope would get his underwear in a knot if I even mentioned the thought

So I'd still want to turn those event popups off, if possible.

I also would have preferred it to be small chunks often, since, well, what I'm really having in mind is more like the small monthly increase that rulers get. The small recognition for leading a pious life and keeping the ruler on the path approved by the Vatican, rather than spectacular religious events.

 

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You can't single out popups to turn off. If a player has for certain events to be turned off, then they will be, if not they won't.

 

[Major Sharpe]

Well, the modifier is precisely what I had in mind.

The question was if I can make it not spam the player with popups. I.e., not display an even window at all. Just add the piety stealthily.
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Reading makes our speaking English good.

Have thought of a way to do it. Its not as detailed as you have in mind, but you can edit the traits themselves, add the following ine at the end of the trait

periodic_score = { piety = X }

Where X is the monthly(??) piety you wish to recieve for a particular trait.

It isnt an event so no annoying popups.

One word of warning, I havnt tested this yet, but its how the chaste trait works so unless theres a bug there it should work.

 

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One word of warning, I havnt tested this yet, but its how the chaste trait works so unless theres a bug there it should work.

periodic_score does not work. This is a known bug. It also affeccts the traits like chaste that give extra piety.

 

[Major Sharpe]

periodic_score does not work. This is a known bug. It also affeccts the traits like chaste that give extra piety.

Thought there might be some issue, I had a feeling chaste didnt work right.

 

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Thought there might be some issue, I had a feeling chaste didnt work right.

Yes, because the church did not think heterosexual relations then were good either
But more importanlty this needs to be addressed because outside a few non-important events, chaste should never be taken because it only lowers fertility with no good side, something you never want.

 

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periodic_score does not work. This is a known bug. It also affeccts the traits like chaste that give extra piety.

Anyone know if this has been fixed yet?

 

[Cat Lord]

periodic_score does not work. This is a known bug. It also affeccts the traits like chaste that give extra piety.

Is that the case ? 1.04a ?

I haven't seen any report on that.

I have seen report on periodic_score not working properly for buildings before, but not for traits...

If you are sure, could you post your observation in 1.04a on the bug forum ?

Thanks,

Cat

 

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In 1.03x and before it didn't, dunno about 1.04x. The reason this was noticeable is because people would use chaste for people who liked the same gender because even though it said it increased piety, it didn't. (And we all know how pious the church sees heterosexual intimiate relationships (i hope)). This actually was one of the oldest bugs reported since atleast the early part of 1.02.

It may have been fixed with the fixes in 1.04a, but if it wasn't known i dunno.

 

[Cat Lord]

In 1.03x and before it didn't, dunno about 1.04x. The reason this was noticeable is because people would use chaste for people who liked the same gender because even though it said it increased piety, it didn't. (And we all know how pious the church sees heterosexual intimiate relationships (i hope)). This actually was one of the oldest bugs reported since atleast the early part of 1.02.

Well I cannot find it in the bug forum...

Cat

 

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Well it was reported from what i remember.
Reguardless it isn't working as far as i know, which is why we see chaste being used for homosexual events and characters, even though it says chaste gives peity in the FAQ.
Also it has been reported offhand that there is no benifit to chaste as all chaste does is lower ferility and there is no reason to ever be chaste as lustful carries no downsides, but only the upside of +2 fertility.

It does not give piety, which would go to the former comment in that homosexual relationships, according to the church are not pious and is likely why is is being used.

If you feel it nessary test this yourself.

 

[Cat Lord]

If you feel it nessary test this yourself.

I will again in 1.04a, because otherwise, as you said, chaste is useless and lustful is unbalanced.

Cheers,

Cat

 

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Wasn't thinking yesterday and mixed up hetero- and homosexual when describing the effects used for chaste as with events. Oh well, i fixed it.

Anyway Cat Lord you get a chance to check it out as i've been busy?

 

[Cat Lord]

Anyway Cat Lord you get a chance to check it out as i've been busy?

No, but the power above have been notified

Cat