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Aryalota

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Description
Anything that increases planetary ascension effects also increases empire size.

Game Version
Orion v3.6.0 open-beta (0193)

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?
Synthetic Dawn, Utopia, Leviathans Story Pack, Apocalypse, Megacorp, Distant Stars, Ancient Relics, Lithoids, Federations, Aquatics

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Any effect that increases planetary ascension effects also increases empire size from districts, colonies, and planets (but not systems) by the same amount as the planetary ascension effects increase.

This includes all 3 sources of planetary ascension effects in the beta: ascensionists civic, level 3 holy covenant, and harmony Finisher Effect.

I believe this is the source of the "harmony bug" that others have pointed out in other threads on the forums - they noticed that harmony seemed to be increasing empire size.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Start a game with the ascensionists civic, you will see that your starting empire size from districts, colonies, and pops is about 25% larger than it should be (see attachment). Similarly, empire size will increase after finishing harmony, or leveling a holy covenant to level 3.

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To follow up:
I think it is something funny going on with the planetary empire size calculation - this would explain why it effects pops, districts, and planets but not systems, and it seems reasonable a bug could have been introduced there since 3.6 changed planetary ascension.

The calculation for planetary empire size should be:
(sum of pops + districts + planet) * (1 - 0.05*(num ascension teirs)*(1 + ascension effect bonus))

but instead it seems to be:
(sum of pops + districts + planet) * (1-0.05*(num ascension teirs)) * (1 + ascension effect bonus)

notice the differing placement of parenthesis in the two formulas.
 
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Definitely still the case with the current beta. Compare the two screenshots of the same empire setup, except for Feudal Society (first screenshot) and Ascensionist (second screenshot)

25% higher empire size from Districts, Colonies, and POPs for the Ascensionist empire.

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