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Salamijoe

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Description
Stellaris 3.5.2 (27ef) - Vassal not giving up holy planet

Game Version
3.5.2 (27ef)

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?


Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
I vassalized another empire that shared a border with a fallen empire. Shortly after vassalization my vassal colonized a gaia world. This world was obviously holy to the fallen empire, which started to complain to me about it.

Every couple of months they told me to stop colonizing their holy worlds. Every time I agreed, got the "humiliated" modifier, but my vassal didn't get the message and continued to settle on the holy world, so there is no way for me to resolve the situation apart from killing the fallen empire (which I'm not in a position to do) or integrating my vassal and hoping that it's possible to give up the planet then (which will take ages as well).

At some point the fallen empire even declared war on my vassal. I immediately capitulated, but the problematic planet is still there, and now they are back to demanding that I leave it alone.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Vassalize an empire with a holy world in its border
2. Hope the vassal colonizes the holy world
3. Get humiliated every couple of months

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Vassals have a weird habit of being horribly antagonistic to Fallen Empires, I've also found they have a tendency to start claiming FE territory and getting you into wars that way.
 
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This bug is part of a family of bugs introduced in 3.4 where the overlord takes over as warleader for their vassals, this results in wargoals being enforced against the overlord instead of the vassal. I also try to maintain a list to track this issues:

As a temporary workaround next time you negotiate a new contract with your vassal give them terms that don't force you to intervene in their defensive wars.
 
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