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Northstar1989

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Description
Stratified Economy does NOT make Authoritarians happy

Game Version
Phoenix v 4.0.21 (bb43)

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?
Plantoids, Humanoids, Synthetic Dawn, Utopia, Leviathans Story Pack, Apocalypse, Megacorp, Distant Stars, Ancient Relics, Lithoids, Federations, Necroids, Aquatics, Overlord, Toxoids, First Contact, Galactic Paragons, Astral Planes, Season 8 Expansion Pass, The Machine Age, Cosmic Storms, Grand Archive

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
The Authoritarian faction demands "Stratified Economy", and is supposed to be (and WAS in prior versions) satisfied by running the Stratified Economy living standard on all sentient pops.

New game, Founder species only (plus NON-UPLIFTED pre-sapients from Genesis Guides civic), Authoritarian faction is unhappy (-20% approval) for lack off Stratified Economy: which IS actually being run on all pops.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Start new game, Founder species only (plus NON-UPLIFTED pre-sapients from Genesis Guides civic), Authoritarian faction is unhappy (-20% approval) for lack off Stratified Economy: which IS actually being run on all pops.

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If I understand these conditions correctly, to satisfy this demand you have to either
- have "Slaver guilds" civic
- or at least one species as slaves, at purging or as robot servants
- or ALL of your species (pre-sapient are not excluded) should have "dystopian society"/"stratified economy"/"academy privilege" living standard.
 
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If I understand these conditions correctly, to satisfy this demand you have to either
- have "Slaver guilds" civic
- or at least one species as slaves, at purging or as robot servants
- or ALL of your species (pre-sapient are not excluded) should have "dystopian society"/"stratified economy"/"academy privilege" living standard.

Correct. Except the pre-sapients part. Pre-sapients do NOT have living standards, and ARE supposed to be excluded.

Having your entire (sentient) population under Stratified is supposed to meet condition #3.

Yet, the Faction is not happy, though it would have been in prior versions
 
Correct. Except the pre-sapients part. Pre-sapients do NOT have living standards, and ARE supposed to be excluded.

Having your entire (sentient) population under Stratified is supposed to meet condition #3.

Yet, the Faction is not happy, though it would have been in prior versions
Can you edit your file "Stellaris\common\pop_faction_types\00_totalitarian.txt" this way?
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Just for testing. Of course, you need to restart the game after saving this file. And you will be able change if back after testing.
 
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Can you edit your file "Stellaris\common\pop_faction_types\00_totalitarian.txt" this way?
Just for testing. Of course, you need to restart the game after saving this file. And you will be able change if back after testing.

That code change (adding "is_sapient = yes" to the code) does "fix" the issue.

Of course, this ought to be a part of the game by default. And, worked this way in the past. I'm not sure why it was ever removed/broken again.
 
I had the same issue so I can confirm this is indeed the case. The faction won't be happy until you uplift them and set their living standard.

Pre-sapients are not supposed to be accounted for and the issue is also preset if you have nascent stage as a genetic trait as those pops don't have any livings standard at all
 
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I made essentially this exact post, just on the Steam Page a few weeks back... the stratified economy was not applying to the faction, because of 300 pre-sapients.
Now to deal with essentially 0 Cybernetic Creed Pop Growth, despite a +40% increase with increased habitability & so on...
 
I had the same issue so I can confirm this is indeed the case. The faction won't be happy until you uplift them and set their living standard.

Pre-sapients are not supposed to be accounted for and the issue is also preset if you have nascent stage as a genetic trait as those pops don't have any livings standard at all

Thank you for confirming! Anyone know how to get the devs' attention to this? Currently stopping me from getting achievements (because I went in and made the one-line bugfix myself...)