Stirling Generators need maintenence in domes now?

[porpsi]

I just noticed that the stirling generators i had in my domes are deteriorating while opened (one was "not working awaiting a drone to repair")... i didnt see anything in the patch notes to say they had changed this, so i'm wondering if something has bugged out or if this was a stealth nerf?

 

[EasyMoney]

I didn’t know you could place them in domes... I did see in the patch notes that the scrubber no longer maintains in dome buildings. Do you think this be the cause?

 

[porpsi]

yeah it used to be that you could place in domes and they need no maintenance since they don't ever get dusty. It could well be related to the scrubber, but not sure if that was intentional or not, so not sure if i should make a bug report or not... At least this explains why i was "inexplicably" running out of polymers on my previous playthrough (just checked that save and they are suffering from deterioration on that one too)... I guess for now i can just put stirlings outside within scrubber range... actually i probably prefer it that way anyway.

 

[SoftwareSamurai]

Wait! You can put stirling generators inside a dome? Do you still have to connect it with cables? That would be so cool to have them "automatically" connected.
What about other things, like solar panels and batteries?
(Now I've got some experimenting to do!)

 

[jpinard]

I just noticed that the stirling generators i had in my domes are deteriorating while opened (one was "not working awaiting a drone to repair")... i didnt see anything in the patch notes to say they had changed this, so i'm wondering if something has bugged out or if this was a stealth nerf?

That's an exploit LOL. So they fixed the bug. Git yer stirlings out of that dome!

 

[SoftwareSamurai]

Won't a dome protect what's inside from dust devils?
I know if my solars and sterlings are outside, dust devils wreck them pretty easily. (The bane of my life!)

 

[porpsi]

That's an exploit LOL. So they fixed the bug. Git yer stirlings out of that dome!

Can you link me to the source where the game devs confirm this is considered an exploit? Cheers

Won't a dome protect what's inside from dust devils?
I know if my solars and sterlings are outside, dust devils wreck them pretty easily. (The bane of my life!)

Good point, so there's still some advantage to putting them in domes, though i think i would rather have them outside within scrubber range.

 

[DominusNovus]

That's an exploit LOL. So they fixed the bug. Git yer stirlings out of that dome!

Why is it a bug? It makes sense that if exposing your stirlings to martian dust degrades them, then putting a bunch of them in a dome would solve that.

Now, properly speaking, all you're doing is replacing their individual heat shells with one giant one, so it would be fair to say that they would ultimately have their power output reduced, as they're going to have issues with heat generation. But, well, now we're modeling thermodynamics in detail.

 

[Swat_Raptor]

So I was under the impression that there were 3 things which contributed to maintenance.

disasters, dust and time.

I couldn't find anything on the finer details of maintenance mechanics, anywhere, they are not laid out on the wiki or in any previous post that I could find.

So i did some testing and the 3 factors of maintenance seem to be disasters, dust and time.
Buildings in domes need maintenance, so why would a Stirling generator not need maintenance, it would not get extra maintenance from dust but it would still be subject to the basic maintenance from time.

the fact that the buildings appear more dusty the fuller their maintenance bar gets was simply a graphics feature, this wasn't representative of game mechanics.

also you can put solar panels in domes, why not Stirling generators, wind turbines can't because well no wind, I'm not sure if a fusion power plant would fit, I never checked.

It is practical to build a vacant basic dome to house your Stirling generators if those are your primary power providers if you get a lot of dust storms.

 

[SoftwareSamurai]

When I tried, only solar panels and Stirlings were place-able inside a dome. But here's a few good points:
1. The dome itself doesn't need water/air, just electrical. In fact, you can turn the dome itself off. (This might cause the game to miscalculate the "demand" for water and O2.)
2. What's inside is protected from dust storms/devils. (Obviously)
3. No wiring needed inside the dome. However, due to the internal layout, only so many of these units will fit. It's probably not as space-efficient as tossing them on the ground outside with wires.
4. For a basic dome, you can fit:
+ 60 Stirlings / Small Solar panels.
+ 18 Large Solar panels w/ either +6 Small Solar panels or +6 Stirlings (or a combo if you wish).
Naturally there are pros/cons to each (initial construction cost, maintenance cost, etc.)
So the big question is: Now that the scrubbers won't keep things inside a dome clean, what's the offset of always maintaining, say, solar panels that are safe from dust devils vs having them outside with little-to-no maintenance on them via scrubbers but still get wrecked occasionally by the dust devils? I guess if you're in a high-dust area, you'll probably want them in a dome. Otherwise, a dome power plant doesn't really help. But it does look neat and tidy! (I really wish I could put a scrubber inside a dome like a spiral.)

 

[Mauer]

Wait, what?? you can place panels and generators inside domes?? How did I not know that after 150 hours of playing???

 

[dreamrider]

So I was under the impression that there were 3 things which contributed to maintenance.

disasters, dust and time.

I couldn't find anything on the finer details of maintenance mechanics, anywhere, they are not laid out on the wiki or in any previous post that I could find.

So i did some testing and the 3 factors of maintenance seem to be disasters, dust and time.
Buildings in domes need maintenance, so why would a Stirling generator not need maintenance, it would not get extra maintenance from dust but it would still be subject to the basic maintenance from time.

the fact that the buildings appear more dusty the fuller their maintenance bar gets was simply a graphics feature, this wasn't representative of game mechanics.

also you can put solar panels in domes, why not Stirling generators, wind turbines can't because well no wind, I'm not sure if a fusion power plant would fit, I never checked.

It is practical to build a vacant basic dome to house your Stirling generators if those are your primary power providers if you get a lot of dust storms.

You get an "Outside Building" alert when you try to place a fusion plant inside a dome. You aren't allowed to do it.

 

[Cohnman5]

Again, same problem. this game needs a manual and a hint guide. Paradox is leaving a lot of money on the table. For a small fee, these could be available as a DLC.