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When I use submarines (im playing as germany) great britain's destroyers always seem to crush my stacks of u-boats. It's rather annoying. And I know that german u-boats were more effective then I have been able to make them. Im probably not doing something right I now, I've read how some other poeple include things like, "and build plenty of submarines" as part of their strategies. I just can't make them work. Any suggestions?

Thanks.
 
im very fond of my subs. as Germany i usually try and get '44 level subs as fast as i can. I always deploy them in fleets of 6, i find this to be very effective. A purely sub navy is cheaper to make and much more likely to destroy every enemy fleet there is against you.
 
Subs in HoI2 and DD are extremely different in terms of their capabilities. In DD, subs are very poor at actual naval fighting but excel at sinking convoys and escorts. In HoI2, it's basically reversed although they are okay at sinking convoys.

The basic gamey sub strategy for HoI2 is to make uberstacks of 30 subs under a good seawolf commander. These will sink anything and everything with very few losses until late in the game. Once the allies get their later naval doctrines researched you will start taking more losses. This is highly ahistorical and unrealistic, but it works and you can sink the entired combined allied navies with 90 subs or so.

A more realistic and historically accurate approach is to follow the advice as per Blue's thread in the DD forums. Just don't expect as good of results. Also, smaller stacks of subs will tend to get chewed up more rapidly in HoI2 than in DD if they do engage enemy forces, although they are more likely to take some of them with them.
 
I have a lot of problems with my submarines being attacked by UK CL's and DD's. Are groups of six too large and easier to spot?
I lost about 5 in the first month of the war playing as germany. At that rate it won't take long for them to deplete my U-Boat force. Any one know how to minimize losses to subs?
 
1) If you are using your subs for anti-convoy work (really all they should be used for), set your picket line as far out in the Atlantic as you can reach. This will keep you away from the main UK ASW fleets.

2) Avoid your subs coming back to port until you have ports on the French Atlantic coast. If they come home past the UK some will be caught and they will die.
 
I try putting them as far out as I can but they still get attacked. Mainly on the portuguese coast. Maybe I'll just try to aviod that area. Although that is where I get decent amount of conveys.
 
George A. said:
I try putting them as far out as I can but they still get attacked. Mainly on the portuguese coast. Maybe I'll just try to aviod that area. Although that is where I get decent amount of conveys.
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You're getting hit by ASW out of Gibraltar. Either research and build subs with a longer range or wait until you can deploy them in France. The Portugese area is a good hunting ground but if you can get your subs as far as the Canaries you will still hit the convoys but avoid most of the ASW.
 
Thanks. I somehow forgot all about Gibralter. :eek:o
 
does anyone know where the german AI files for placing uboats patrols are/is and if you edit them - eg can you change it so german AI uses it uboats in the alatantic/ caridean etc like they did in the actual war they seem to be stuck/stacked at keil etc
 
2 questions eg playing as russia ( but generally ) does antipartisan duty IN YOUR OWN NATIONAL provinces reduse partisan etc effects? and winter attrition IN your own national provinces have much effect to worry about CHEERS
 
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