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Jun 15, 2005
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I'm wondering if it is a way to tweak the subs in HSR? I love the mod, but i feel that the subs has become next to useless. Playing as germany i have all the relevant doctrines for subs(im in early '41 atm) yet my 4 6-sub stacks never sink anything. If I put them on convoy raids around the british isles I might, just maybe, manage to sink one or two escorts before being obliterated by a british fleet.

If i put my subs in mid-atlantic they tend to stay alive longer but then they dont sink anything at all. I've tried convoy raiding day, night and both and even tried naval interdition - they just dont sink any convoys.

And every time they get caught by a enemy fleet they are completely mauled. I've lost 10-12 subs now for maybe 6-7 escorts in total sunk (I dont beleive i've sunk any convoys yet).

I'd love to see subs returned to a more vanilla level - or maybe somebody could tell me how to use them effectively. 'Cause I sure as hell am not experiencing any "Happy Times"!
 
abel29a said:
I'm wondering if it is a way to tweak the subs in HSR? I love the mod, but i feel that the subs has become next to useless. Playing as germany i have all the relevant doctrines for subs(im in early '41 atm) yet my 4 6-sub stacks never sink anything. If I put them on convoy raids around the british isles I might, just maybe, manage to sink one or two escorts before being obliterated by a british fleet.

If i put my subs in mid-atlantic they tend to stay alive longer but then they dont sink anything at all. I've tried convoy raiding day, night and both and even tried naval interdition - they just dont sink any convoys.

And every time they get caught by a enemy fleet they are completely mauled. I've lost 10-12 subs now for maybe 6-7 escorts in total sunk (I dont beleive i've sunk any convoys yet).

I'd love to see subs returned to a more vanilla level - or maybe somebody could tell me how to use them effectively. 'Cause I sure as hell am not experiencing any "Happy Times"!

This is a big HOI problem currently. Be sure we will be actively trying to change it. For now subs (HSR 2.02-HOI 1.2) are just a waste of resources.
 
I acctually got a suggestion over at the stony road website forum which fixed the problme. My subs are now sinking convoys left and right - just add a 10% extra increase in convoy effeciency in all the relevant sub-techs and they are really effective again. They still get sunk alot but now they cause massive damage before that happends so it's ok.
 
HSR 2.03 coming on the weekend has a big rework on subs done last night. Hopefully we will be improving the situation for it to be more realistic. For details and a discussion on the new changes check the stony website.
Submarines changes
 
That's a great idea, hope that works.