Suggestion "Minimap"

[Buddy3101]

it would be cool feature if you could hide the undiscovered provinces on the minimap and only let them appear on the minimap as soon as they are discovered on the realworld map.
So the player would get a better feeling of discovering the earth, without "seeing where he has to go" on the minimap....

 

[unmerged(463662)]

Likewise the find province function should only work if the province has been discovered.

 

[CaptRobau]

Excellent suggestion, although it will take some work as the minimap wasn't designed that way.

 

[Ichabod]

That's how it was in EU I and II. I have no idea why they took it out for EUIII (perhaps conflicts with the new graphics engine).
It's definitely one the huge things I miss of the early EUs and every time I look at the minimap and see America in 1450, I die a little bit inside. ㅠ_ㅠ

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

You mean you haven't discovered America by that point?

I disagree that the "find" function shouldn't be able to find undiscovered provinces - after all we get missions at the moment "discover X province". Why on earth should my advisors and court be so keen that I find one particular poxy island in the middle of no where? If they know roughly where it is, as the "flavour" text in the mission says, then they already know the rough location!
The only way to find them, short of either blind exploration or knowing where all the likely suspects are is to use the finder.

I can see having the minimap hidden by a fog of war being inconvienient to program, but still - I suppose that's a design decision that is way beyond discussion here.

 

[Don_Quigleone]

I always found it annoying in EU2 that I had to remember the exact position of landmasses before exploring. It basically only rewarded players with good memories. And it's not like players don't know America is out there already!

 

[Ichabod]

I normally hate the colonialism and exploration parts of the game because they are so redundant. The one nearly-perfect way to resolve it would be to give an option for a randomized world outside of Europe so that you didn't know exactly what was out there. The only problem with that is that it wouldn't be an EU game >_<

 

[ANO1453]

I always found it annoying in EU2 that I had to remember the exact position of landmasses before exploring. It basically only rewarded players with good memories. And it's not like players don't know America is out there already!

It's not that hard - west, America. To reach India, just follow the African coast.

 

[Korsan82]

I dont know but do we need a minimap at all? We can zoom in and out that's enough if you ask me.. The minimap breaks the immersion, so leave it out.

 

[unmerged(271387)]

i dont know but do we need a minimap at all? We can zoom in and out that's enough if you ask me.. The minimap breaks the immersion, so leave it out.

no!

 

[Don_Quigleone]

It's not that hard - west, America. To reach India, just follow the African coast.

The tricky thing was finding Brazil from the African coast. Or when crossing the Atlantic not going too far north and missing the Caribbean.

 

[smithy17]

Find them after you reach America then. Exactly where you make landfall doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things, once you reach the coast you can easily find wherever you want.

 

[minispace]

Or trying to find Asia and hitting the Caribbean instead. /Columbus

 

[ANO1453]

The tricky thing was finding Brazil from the African coast. Or when crossing the Atlantic not going too far north and missing the Caribbean.

As soon as you reach a piece of coast, just move North or South.

Brazil is just Southwest of Cape Verde. To go to the Caribbean all I do is to move the fleets along the Brazilian coast until I reach them. Cape Verde is the only thing you need to know really, from there to Brazil there is only a single province of deep sea.

 

[Don_Quigleone]

As soon as you reach a piece of coast, just move North or South.

Brazil is just Southwest of Cape Verde. To go to the Caribbean all I do is to move the fleets along the Brazilian coast until I reach them. Cape Verde is the only thing you need to know really, from there to Brazil there is only a single province of deep sea.

I don't think you guys quite remember how bad naval attrition was in EU2, crossing from Europe to North America without hugging coastlines through terra incognita was a quick way to just lose your entire fleet.

The secret was indeed Cape Verde, but that's not something a noob would know, eh?

Having the map there makes this part less annoying for beginners, whose geography knowledge isn't quite as complete as others.

 

[ANO1453]

I don't think you guys quite remember how bad naval attrition was in EU2, crossing from Europe to North America without hugging coastlines through terra incognita was a quick way to just lose your entire fleet.

I don't know, I don't played much of EU2, but in EU3 naval attrition is a joke.

I have no objections to keeping the mini-map. I only use it for jumping from one province to the other.

 

[GurenGaaze]

I am on both side, I like the current map, but I like this suggestion aswell, the only way to find other provinces would be to find them yourself, or to buy infomasion from other countries that has explored that area for a little cash, not much but little, something like the total war system (Total war Rome, and others total war games) or if given enough time then you get to know the explored areas of other nations (20 years time?) what do you think about this?