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Sultanates should not be the Primary Nation of Culture - India

SantoshKashyap · 2017-04-12T09:45:15+00:00

The sultanates in India region were outsiders who ousted the local rulers. Except for the Delhi Sultanate in the EU4, all other Sultanates are relatively new and they must not be represented as primary nation of the culture and should loose permanent cores from all provinces, eventually. It should also be noted that, throughout medieval times wherever Mughals or Sultanate had loose command, local Hindu chiefs would develop their own principalities of independent nature who would turn into a tributary state when called to measure swords. A majority of them would merge into some sultanate if there arose contention over lordship between two powers. Very common between Bahamani - Malwa, Malwa-Jaunpur, Mewar-Malwa, Mewar-Gujarat, Jaunpur-Bengal. During the Mughals, Many of these principalities survived because of "Watan-Jagir" policy of Akbar - Mughals would not tolerate any subordinate Muslim principality within its reach and that the privilege of having Watan-Jagir would be confined to only Hindu dynasties of long standing. Thus these numerous small Hindu principalities enjoyed a little independence within Mughal framework of suzerainty. This set up was not disturbed till the time of Aurangzeb who owing to Jagirdari crisis went on to absorbing these petty states & Zagirs increasing much discontent and it later killed the Mughals like a Boa under its own constriction. Number of such petty principalities in EU4 era would be over 50 which would get created-destroyed and resurface in Medieval times. A detailed work on these can be found and included in the game. (India would look like HRE with multiple single province nations but thats how it was when large power were not in scene). There is no need to put all of them but their essence needs to captured which will play very instrumental in fall and rise of empires. A few medieval example off my mind: Chhappan of Bhils Rewa (Battah) Bhurshut in Bengal (Howrah-Hoogly region) Bankura in Bengal Jessor in Bengal It needs a thorough study and then incorporation. There were Over 500 principalities in British India - all of the regional characteristics. Many were already absorbed during Dalhousie's Doctrine of Lapse. India needs a rework. This was one of the most happening place in EU4 era. It saw birth of three empires - Mughals, Marathas & British - after the successive decline of the former. But none of them happen in the game.

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Start date Apr 12, 2017

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Trin Tragula

Design Lead - Crusader Kings 3

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Apr 12, 2017

Sultanates revolted away on multiple occasions in India:
Bahmanis split into a whole bunch of Sultanates.
Muslim Gujarat and Malwa revolted from Mughals and from Surs.
Bengal broke away as a Muslim state on more than one occasion.
Just to name a few of those we have as primary tags

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