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They seem to have changed the console in the last patch. How do I start the console now? Because I want to be able to tag switch and use cheats to boost the AI or test different events.
 
Does anyone besides me love to mod and play outside debug-mode? I have serious concerns that this decision will move to other PDX games. I am curious on why this made was even done in the first place. definitely not mod-friendly.
 
Does anyone besides me love to mod and play outside debug-mode? I have serious concerns that this decision will move to other PDX games. I am curious on why this made was even done in the first place. definitely not mod-friendly.
Because you could use it in the lobby before getting in game but with a selected nation to apply cheats, letting you cheat through iron man by setting up all your cheats before having entered iron man mode.
Its really not that much work to add the startup paramater to your launch, and to be honest any modding probably wants debug mode on anyway so you can actually ensure your mods work properly. It really isn't that mod unfriendly.
 
Because you could use it in the lobby before getting in game but with a selected nation to apply cheats, letting you cheat through iron man by setting up all your cheats before having entered iron man mode.
Its really not that much work to add the startup paramater to your launch, and to be honest any modding probably wants debug mode on anyway so you can actually ensure your mods work properly. It really isn't that mod unfriendly.

Thanks for the info! I never knew that it could be accessed in the lobby, I defiantly see the issues there. I am sure I am in the minority but I don't like the debug tied to console but I also don't mod the map/graphics at all and focus on nation specific "flavor" stuff. Oh well i muddle through. I really appreciate your response though I was wondering about the change and why it happened.
 
Note:
One of the changes in this patch is that the in game Console has been disabled by default. To enable it, launch the game using -debug_mode launch command.

Question: How do I "launch the game using -debug_mode launch command" ? Where do I do that ?
 
In Steam, right click on the game, and click properties. in there, should be a space to input launch options, thats where you put it.
 
Is it now impossible to tag-switch in a normal game? :(

I'd have imagined more people to feel negatively surprised at the console being removed just like that; having a console to use for whatever shenanigans you can imagine felt like a fundamental part of the game to me, being in pretty much all previous games (or at least the ones I played since HOI 2).

Surely it's possible to simply have the console not turn on in the lobby, without removing it wholesale? Or maybe having to enter a certain command, like tdebug, that turns off achievements automatically?
 
Because you could use it in the lobby before getting in game but with a selected nation to apply cheats, letting you cheat through iron man by setting up all your cheats before having entered iron man mode.
Its really not that much work to add the startup paramater to your launch, and to be honest any modding probably wants debug mode on anyway so you can actually ensure your mods work properly. It really isn't that mod unfriendly.


What I struggle to understand is how is possible that you have this issue for I:R but not for EU4 and Ck2 :S
 
Is it now impossible to tag-switch in a normal game? :(

I'd have imagined more people to feel negatively surprised at the console being removed just like that; having a console to use for whatever shenanigans you can imagine felt like a fundamental part of the game to me, being in pretty much all previous games (or at least the ones I played since HOI 2).

Surely it's possible to simply have the console not turn on in the lobby, without removing it wholesale? Or maybe having to enter a certain command, like tdebug, that turns off achievements automatically?
You can still use it just enable debug mode from the command line properties in steam or on your exe directly. You just need to enable that before you get into the game to have the console allowed.

What I struggle to understand is how is possible that you have this issue for I:R but not for EU4 and Ck2 :S
Because the setup for the lobby in the older games is a lot more convoluted in how it gets somewhere and when something is considered to be "in game", there are plenty of debugging console commands one would want to use in the lobby on our end. Its more work to go through every command and block some of them from being usable in the lobby than it is to just disable it unless you turn it on via a command line argument. Sure the time could be put in to doing that, but its a tedious waste of time compared to other things that could be done.
 
Sure the time could be put in to doing that, but its a tedious waste of time compared to other things that could be done.

Totally agree. It was mere curiosity. Im fine with the console being in debug mode. Its a bit of a pain having to change it depending on whether you want to play with achievements or mods, but if its such a big issue to fix, yeah Id rather you spent your time on bigger issues. ;)

Keep it up guys.
 
You can still use it just enable debug mode from the command line properties in steam or on your exe directly. You just need to enable that before you get into the game to have the console allowed.

Is there a way to turn off debug information without turning off debug mode? (I thought entering debug_mode in the console was a solution, but that locks you out of the console again).