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March 15, 1929

The ancient grandfather clock announced eleven in the evening for all of Ten Downing Street. Aside from the crackle of the nearby roaring fire there was not another sound throughout the entire residence.

Outwardly, the two men assembled in the smoking room were completely at ease. Internally, however, they were both frantically determining what course of action must be taken. André, sensing hesitation, attempted one last bout of persuasion.

"You know as well as I, Prime Minister, that if France falls, Britain stands alone. The government of the Third Republic does not anticipate a war, nor wish one. We simply seek insurance if one were to occur. We can assure that future generations must never again endure the horrors of the Western Front. I sit before you as a servant of the French government, and beg. Beg for assistance from our ally." He took a deep breath and intently studied the balding man who would either save his project or destroy it. Finally, Stanley Baldwin spoke.

"Monsieur Maginot, as both the Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury I can honestly promise the full financial support of the United Kingdom. His Majesty's government will match in full any appropriation made by the Third Republic. You will have your wall, and with it the security of our nations."

André was blindsided. He had been promised nearly three billion francs by the government, which alone only provided for extensive fortifications on the direct eastern border with Germany. With six billion he would extend it across the entire length of France's eastern frontier, Belgium and the Ardennes included.

He stood, and bowed graciously to the British premier. "You have saved our nations, Mr. Baldwin." With that, he hurriedly left and made his way to the waiting car.

There were many preparations to be made and the construction would be lengthy. But, it would happen.

Yes, he would have his wall.
 
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Extend the Maginot line all the way up the coast? How very generous of Baldwin.
 
December 9, 1932

Another rough wave of turbulence rolled over the struggling Ju-52. In the passenger area a middle-aged army officer attempted to keep his lunch within his stomach. He failed. Placing the foul smelling waste bag on the floor he returned to flipping through the report he had written by order of the new Chief of General Staff, Ludwig Beck.

He was extremely excited when he had been told he was to assemble a report on the possible applications of all armored units. He was less enthusiastic when informed he would have to fly to Berlin during a storm to arrive on time.

The pilot had the courtesy to announce when they were expecting turbulence, but that did nothing to diminish the savage beating of the aircraft and the passengers inside. Just as the man began to relax, the overhead lights dimmed and then reappeared. "Surely nothin-" The dull roar surrounding the airplane lightened considerably. As soon as he began to wonder if they had made it out of the storm zone his question was answered by a dip in the aircraft's trajectory. No, they had not left the storm. "An engine has failed..."

He crossed himself as the pilot confirmed his suspicions over the intercom. He assured them everything would be fine. The officer almost believed him until the noise faltered yet again, this time accompanied by an even bigger drop. There would be no recovering from this.

The plane stalled and, still battered by the intense gales, began to dive. It was only fifteen seconds before the injured Lufthansa transport crashed into the forest below.

In the wreckage, Heinz Guderian's report burned.
 
So two departures from history. Killing off Guderian is certainly one way to retard the development of Blitzkreig.
 
Guderian dead? My God, that is a sad thing. Shall De Gaulle be the new man to shout Achtung Panzer? ;)
 
Tonights El Pip top tip. Read all the words in a post. Guderian is not dead, his report is along with, possibly/probably/not proved Beck.

Frankly it is Beck's death that intrigues me more. As one of the few "doves" (for a very relaxed value of dove granted) in the Wehrmacht the lack of his braking influence could force Hitler to act far earlier. Beck was a war of ideology only kind of man, apparently, and had a good understanding of the Anglo-Saxon mind, much like Admiral Raeder as far as I can tell. Like Raeder he was dismissed from his position for precisely these reasons.

In any case I hope all the consequences of these changes, and there will be many, are explored. ;)
 
Pirate Z said:
Guderian dead? My God, that is a sad thing. Shall De Gaulle be the new man to shout Achtung Panzer? ;)
Shout? Nay, yell, I say!!

Attention Blindees!
:D
alternate history? said:
September 15, 1939
With his flanks firmly anchored in the Maginot-Baldwin line, and the immediate path ahead of him cleared by incessant bombing from the French Air Force, De Gaulle's Premier Corps Des Blindees storms across the German border... the schedule is ambitious, there must be no dithering. Saarbruecken is to fall within five days, Trier after two weeks. Leclerc's Seconde Corps des Blindees is supposed to reach Mainz on the first of October. Certainly a bold plan. But this is not what will decide the outcome of this first stage of the war... ultimately, the outcome of the struggle in Poland will decide whether De Gaulle's heroic dash for the Rhine will save the world on time, or whether it will merely stake out a somewhat advanced front line for yet another drawn out bloodbath in Europe.

At the same time, Oberst Guderian, commander of Germany's isolated Heligoland outpost, sends an urgent radio report back to northern headquarters in Kiel - a British fleet is approaching the mouth of the Elbe, and it appears to carry an invasion force.
 
Karl Martell said:
Shout? Nay, yell, I say!!

Alternate History? said:
September 15, 1939
With his flanks firmly anchored in the Maginot-Baldwin line, and the immediate path ahead of him cleared by incessant bombing from the French Air Force, De Gaulle's Premier Corps Des Blindees storms across the German border... the schedule is ambitious, there must be no dithering. Saarbruecken is to fall within five days, Trier after two weeks. Leclerc's Seconde Corps des Blindees is supposed to reach Mainz on the first of October. Certainly a bold plan. But this is not what will decide the outcome of this first stage of the war... ultimately, the outcome of the struggle in Poland will decide whether De Gaulle's heroic dash for the Rhine will save the world on time, or whether it will merely stake out a somewhat advanced front line for yet another drawn out bloodbath in Europe.

At the same time, Oberst Guderian, commander of Germany's isolated Heligoland outpost, sends an urgent radio report back to northern headquarters in Kiel - a British fleet is approaching the mouth of the Elbe, and it appears to carry an invasion force.

Attention Blindees!
:D

Oh, this looks interesting
 
stnylan: It is only 1932, four years is a long time for more things to go off track :D

Pirate Z: The spirit of Maneuver may live on in the nation of Cuba, should they choose to develop it :D

El Pip: Don't know where you got mixed up but yes, that was Guderian :confused:

Karl Martell: I was going to call it the "Anglo-Gaul Co-Defensive Line for the Protection of Western Democracy from Kaiser Bill" line, but Maginot-Baldwin is pretty catchy :cool:

GeneralHannible: Always glad to have a reader :)
 
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Very interesting, to say the least.
 
The oldest rule in the book: The moment you try and correct someones mistake on 'teh interweb' you yourself will probably make a mistake. Doing so after a night at the pub made it all but inevitable.

However I stand by my statement, Beck dying would be far more interesting than that overated plagarist Guderian. One badly written book with ideas blagged from other people and suddenly he's a legend.... :)D)

Something which didn't occur last night (damned booze :p) is you appear to be heading for The Great War MkII, no/less armour development and a pre-made wall of trenches. Not an exact match up I'll grant, far more motorised forces, larger and more powerfull airforces and there will still be tanks around, just scattered not concentrated in one force. But will all that be enough to break the deadlock if there is indeed one?

As for de Gaulle I can only hope that if he does yell Achtung Panzer, it's because he's about to be run over by one. Repeatedly. :D
 
June 18, 1934

The stolen blueprints spread across the oaken conference table struck fear into the hearts of every military man in the room. None more so than that of the Führer. He had not served directly as a fighting man in the trenches, but as a regimental messenger he knew of the terror. But those, those were simple lines of barbed wire and holes in the dirt. This concrete monstrosity would chew the entirety of Germany and spit it back out a bloodied mess.

No, this could not go uncountered. "Herr von Blomberg, what is the status of the Westwall?"

The aging commander of the OKH could see where this was going. "Mein Führer, an effort to construct a fortress line of comparable strength along the direct western border is simply impossible at this time." This was not the answer the Reichschancellor wanted. Sensing an opportunity, he continued. "We lack the resources considering our current expansion of the Kriegsmarine." He smiled inwardly, as Erich Raeder's eyes grew extremely wide. If Hitler was going to slash someone's program to build his new Westwall, it would not be his. All the better if it was the Reichsmarine's.

He took the bait. "You speak of the planned Scharnhorst and the Gneisenau?"

Werner von Blomberg heaved an internal sign of relief. He had won. "Yes, the raw materials and manpower needed for the two cruisers could be put to great use in the fortification effort. Along with any materials and man-hours being reserved for this so called "Plan Z" being discussed."

The Führer pondered the decision for only a few seconds. "It is done, then. Draft plans for an equal to this "Maginot-Baldwin" line immediately. As for you, Admiral Raeder, you will use what you can to construct Unterseeboots. I will have no more talk of diverting valuable supplies to a surface navy."

Although he had won a major victory, he decided to go for the Coup de Grâce. "There is one more thing, mein Führer."

"Yes?"

"The western forts extend along the entire Belgian border, leaving us vulnerable to unhindered attacks from that area."

"Well, Herr von Blomberg, we shall have to correct this imbalance." The Reichschancellor smiled.
 
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this is starting to look like a more mangled version of the trench wars with two opposing fortresses....
 
This looks like things could be awar of attrtition with Trenches on the continent and Uboat campaign. Very interesting.
 
Looks like it may be a replay of World War 1....
 
Poor Heinz. :(

Looking forward to the bloodbath though.
 
things don't look good so far, looks like it will be a tough war.