House of Laszlo Arpad
This is not a normal AAR, but fits better here than anywhere else. I was curious how the descendents of my first rulers fared traced by a succession law unavailable in CK. In particular, I followed a rule of succession that
1) allows the eldest daughter to inherit if the king has no sons and
2) if the oldest son is dead, the title passes to the 2nd oldest son rather than to the son of the oldest son.
I then looked at how this hypothetical head of household did through a full game in which I had many saved games to reconstruct what happened. I learned all kinds of family history I was unware of while I was playing.
Laszlo Arpad 1045-1099; Count of Bihar was the founder of the house.
Agoston Arpad 1070- 1132. In 1099, his Laszlo’s eldest son Agoston inherited his titles, including the Duke of Belgrade.
Vilmos Arpad - 1088 - 1135. Vilmos was the second son of Agoston, but the first son died before him. Vilmos was merely count of Naissus. His principal titles were passed to his grandson, which led to a wild succession of child rulers, heretics, excommunications, elective law, bubonic plague and revolts. The next 70 years or so were pretty chaotic.
Miklos Arpad – 1107 – 1152. Vilmos eldest son, who was granted the title Duke of Vidin by his cousin who was by now King of Serbia.
Orban Arpad – 1125 – 1196. In 1160, Miklos’ eldest son rebelled against Kingdom of Serbia. After being forced to relinquish his titles and claim on King of Serbia, Orban fled to the county of Cieszyn, the home court of his wife, where he served as diocese bishop.
Almos Arpad – 1142-1216. At the time of his father’s rebellion, Almos was the Count of Ochrid and a vassal of his father. The King of Serbia granted him his father’s titles in a failed attempt to keep him loyal. Almos rebelled in 1169, and was forced to give up his titles. He then joined his father in the county of Cieszyn, and this branch of the family seemed destined to obscurity. He sired no sons, but his eldest daughter Theodora married Dragan Arpad, a descendent of Vilmos’ third son. Almos returned to the court of the King of Serbia (and Bulgaria by this time) in 1210, when his son-in-law’s brother Sermon was elected to the throne.
Alexios Arpad – 1182-1237 Alexios was the grandson of Almos and lived as a courtier in the court of the King of Serbia and Bulgaria, until his royal cousin granted him the titles of Count of Korinthos and Count of Achaia.
Romanos (the Great) Arpad 1214-1268. Romanos grew in power and prestige and was favored with the title Duke of Hellas by the King. Less than two years after the king’s death in 1250, the king’s eldest son was mysteriously assassinated. While the King had been granting titles to his eldest sons, they were still less prestigious than Romanos. The line of Vilmos was restored to the throne by election. Despite questionable ethics, Romanos was a very successful ruler, eventually crowning himself Emperor of Byzantium and King of Croatia.
Leo Arpad 1242 – 1274 Romanos’ first son inherited but failed to live long.
Ioannes Arpad 1250 – 1291 . Leo’s son added the title King of Burgundy, principally to gain control of Burgundy’s vassal states in Italy.
Evangelos Arpad 1267 – 1312 Evangelos was actually Ioannes’ second son, as his first died at the age of fifteen. Added the title King of Aleppo.
Athanasios Arpad 1291 – 1314 The second son of Evangelos, as the first died in infancy. Assassinated very early in his reign.
Stephanos (the Sick) Arpad 1308 – 1335
At time of assassination of Athanasios in, his eldest son was a six-year old duke of Laodikeia and Ikonium. Somehow the crown fell into the hands of 3-year old Tihumir (I really can't recall how this happened, and wasn't able to reconstruct from the saves I had), son of a leper who was descended from one of the younger brothers (see Almos, above). However, he died in 1316, and Stephanos was elected to the throne, despite being only eight. Stephanos judged that the realm had had enough of the instability of elective law, and changed the rule to salic consanguinity as soon as he had a male heir. However, the pneumonic plague struck during Stephanos’ reign, ultimately killing him and his eldest son. At the time of his death the unfortunate man was also stressed, depressed and suffering from pneumonia. Despite his short reign, he was able to add the title King of Venice.
Romanos II Arpad 1324 – 1355 The plague continued to afflict the realm throughout the reign of Stephanos’ second son, who ultimately died of the plague, as did his only legitimate son. The throne with its many titles passed to the son of the third son of Evangelos.
Maria Arpad 1351 – 1383 Eldest daughter of Romanos, she moved to the Count of Orleans when she married Andronikos Arpad, who was the marshal . This branch of the family looked to have once again fallen from power forever.
Romanos III Arpad 1372 – 1444 Maria’s eldest son grew up in the county of Orleans, but inherited the county of Smyrna in 1380 from Countess Eirene of Smyrna, who was the unmarried and childless sister of Athanasios Arpad.
Symeon Arpad 1404- Actually the 5th son of Romanos III, and the 4th legitimate, but the others all died young. Inherited the county of Smyrna.
So this particular line was a count at the beginning and a count at the end, but their fortunes rose and fell several times in between.
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This is not a normal AAR, but fits better here than anywhere else. I was curious how the descendents of my first rulers fared traced by a succession law unavailable in CK. In particular, I followed a rule of succession that
1) allows the eldest daughter to inherit if the king has no sons and
2) if the oldest son is dead, the title passes to the 2nd oldest son rather than to the son of the oldest son.
I then looked at how this hypothetical head of household did through a full game in which I had many saved games to reconstruct what happened. I learned all kinds of family history I was unware of while I was playing.
Laszlo Arpad 1045-1099; Count of Bihar was the founder of the house.
Agoston Arpad 1070- 1132. In 1099, his Laszlo’s eldest son Agoston inherited his titles, including the Duke of Belgrade.
Vilmos Arpad - 1088 - 1135. Vilmos was the second son of Agoston, but the first son died before him. Vilmos was merely count of Naissus. His principal titles were passed to his grandson, which led to a wild succession of child rulers, heretics, excommunications, elective law, bubonic plague and revolts. The next 70 years or so were pretty chaotic.
Miklos Arpad – 1107 – 1152. Vilmos eldest son, who was granted the title Duke of Vidin by his cousin who was by now King of Serbia.
Orban Arpad – 1125 – 1196. In 1160, Miklos’ eldest son rebelled against Kingdom of Serbia. After being forced to relinquish his titles and claim on King of Serbia, Orban fled to the county of Cieszyn, the home court of his wife, where he served as diocese bishop.
Almos Arpad – 1142-1216. At the time of his father’s rebellion, Almos was the Count of Ochrid and a vassal of his father. The King of Serbia granted him his father’s titles in a failed attempt to keep him loyal. Almos rebelled in 1169, and was forced to give up his titles. He then joined his father in the county of Cieszyn, and this branch of the family seemed destined to obscurity. He sired no sons, but his eldest daughter Theodora married Dragan Arpad, a descendent of Vilmos’ third son. Almos returned to the court of the King of Serbia (and Bulgaria by this time) in 1210, when his son-in-law’s brother Sermon was elected to the throne.
Alexios Arpad – 1182-1237 Alexios was the grandson of Almos and lived as a courtier in the court of the King of Serbia and Bulgaria, until his royal cousin granted him the titles of Count of Korinthos and Count of Achaia.
Romanos (the Great) Arpad 1214-1268. Romanos grew in power and prestige and was favored with the title Duke of Hellas by the King. Less than two years after the king’s death in 1250, the king’s eldest son was mysteriously assassinated. While the King had been granting titles to his eldest sons, they were still less prestigious than Romanos. The line of Vilmos was restored to the throne by election. Despite questionable ethics, Romanos was a very successful ruler, eventually crowning himself Emperor of Byzantium and King of Croatia.
Leo Arpad 1242 – 1274 Romanos’ first son inherited but failed to live long.
Ioannes Arpad 1250 – 1291 . Leo’s son added the title King of Burgundy, principally to gain control of Burgundy’s vassal states in Italy.
Evangelos Arpad 1267 – 1312 Evangelos was actually Ioannes’ second son, as his first died at the age of fifteen. Added the title King of Aleppo.
Athanasios Arpad 1291 – 1314 The second son of Evangelos, as the first died in infancy. Assassinated very early in his reign.
Stephanos (the Sick) Arpad 1308 – 1335
At time of assassination of Athanasios in, his eldest son was a six-year old duke of Laodikeia and Ikonium. Somehow the crown fell into the hands of 3-year old Tihumir (I really can't recall how this happened, and wasn't able to reconstruct from the saves I had), son of a leper who was descended from one of the younger brothers (see Almos, above). However, he died in 1316, and Stephanos was elected to the throne, despite being only eight. Stephanos judged that the realm had had enough of the instability of elective law, and changed the rule to salic consanguinity as soon as he had a male heir. However, the pneumonic plague struck during Stephanos’ reign, ultimately killing him and his eldest son. At the time of his death the unfortunate man was also stressed, depressed and suffering from pneumonia. Despite his short reign, he was able to add the title King of Venice.
Romanos II Arpad 1324 – 1355 The plague continued to afflict the realm throughout the reign of Stephanos’ second son, who ultimately died of the plague, as did his only legitimate son. The throne with its many titles passed to the son of the third son of Evangelos.
Maria Arpad 1351 – 1383 Eldest daughter of Romanos, she moved to the Count of Orleans when she married Andronikos Arpad, who was the marshal . This branch of the family looked to have once again fallen from power forever.
Romanos III Arpad 1372 – 1444 Maria’s eldest son grew up in the county of Orleans, but inherited the county of Smyrna in 1380 from Countess Eirene of Smyrna, who was the unmarried and childless sister of Athanasios Arpad.
Symeon Arpad 1404- Actually the 5th son of Romanos III, and the 4th legitimate, but the others all died young. Inherited the county of Smyrna.
So this particular line was a count at the beginning and a count at the end, but their fortunes rose and fell several times in between.
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