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Cardinal Borgia

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Hi Everyone,

Having been inspired by the great work of JabberJock14 and coz1 I thought I'd take a crack of my own at writing an actual AAR. I've enjoyed Before Plantagenet so much I wanted to play in France, but I needed something different to those who have gone before me (so that I don't look so terrible in comparison!). This will very much be a learning experience for me as I've never tried doing this before (the number of edits it took to get a picture in correctly demonstrates this well!) and I don't think I've put this much of my writing out there either, so advice would be much appreciated!

Wanting to play in France, and needing a character with lots of interesting things to write about.... well this guy seemed to have loads of potential, and a family background of greatness.

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Now to see if he can live up to his illustrious predecessor...

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Welcome to the Karling Restoration!
 
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Ah, the famous Last Karling himself! Good luck there, Herbert. You'll need it.
 
Good luck with the AAR writing!
 
Chapter 1
Chapter 1,

8th September 1066.



“It is time my dear.” The Countess’ soft voice broke into Herbert’s reverie and he closed his book, blinking owlishly in the dim light of the candles and wondering how he had missed the gathering darkness. Already the days were getting shorter.


“Time for what?” He asked, trying to remember. Had he forgotten a celebration? A court meeting?


“The children, my lord Husband. You remember that you have a son and a daughter of course?” She was teasing him now, Herbert’s doting on his children was well known in Vermandois.


“I remember begetting them certainly!” The count replied with a lustful grin, “As I recall Adele was conceived at this very table. Perhaps we should give her a little brother or sister.” He reached for his wife and tugged her into his lap as she giggled, accepting his kisses before pulling away to put a little space between them.


“Later my lord, now we must focus on the children we have.” She insisted, although the way she wriggled caused Herbert’s attention to divert southwards for a few moments. “… six years of age and we must start considering alliances.”


“I am only a count, my dear.” Herbert reminded his wife. “A count with a glorious name for sure. There is no-one else in the kingdom that can boast my descent from Charlemagne, no less than ten kings of France have come from the ranks of my family! But for all of that we are a diminished clan, and with the Duke of Normandy making his play for the English crown, I fear that the Great Lords of France will be looking for stronger allies.”


“You sell yourself short” Alix scolded her husband. “You are a Karling, and so are our children. That counts for much, and you yourself are a man of importance in the realm. You serve the king directly, and hold Vermandois independent of the dukes. With his majesty still years from his majority this is our time. The king needs loyal men and your support has been steadfast for many years. I think he would kindly on a closer match with you, showing his vassals the rewards of loyalty.”


Herbert smiled, remembering exactly why his wife played such a role in the affairs of his county. “Scheming again my dear?” He asked, before the full impact of her words sank in. “Do you really think he’d consider a match?” The train of thought begun in his mind, possibilities come quickly. “The Princess Emma is yet unattached – she would make a fine match for Eudes. Or perhaps Prince Robert for Adele, there is some question of age but the Prince is still young.”


Countess Alix nodded her head to her husband’s musings. “I hear good things of Princess Emma, she would make a fine match for Eudes.” Leaning in she kissed her husband deeply, before he swept his book from the table, deposited her on it instead and the pair began to focus on other familial matters.

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Melun, 28th September 1066.


Seeing the fortress at Melun always impressed Count Herbert. Long the seat of his ancestors, the noble castle towered over the wide banks of the Seine and remained, unmistakably, the seat of royal power in France.


“Thank God the rain has held off, eh brother?” He called to Pierre, his younger brother and Court Chaplain, brought along to deal with any theological concerns that might be raised.

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“Indeed my Lord,” Pierre responded, crossing himself with one hand. “He favours our mission today.” The Court Chaplain was a learned man and just, but also a man of comfort who preferred the less onerous, and more profitable, post of Court Chaplain to an actual bishopric – being forced to travel to Melun had left him discontent. “Mayhaps we will arrive soon and taste his Grace’s hospitality?”


“Very well brother!” Herbert responded with a grin, “Why don’t you lead the way then?”


With the Court Chaplain uncomfortably in the lead, the Count of Vermandois entered Melun and dismounted. A liveried page hurried up. “My Lord, the King will meet you momentarily, if you would follow me please.”


Leaving his horse with the stablehand the Count followed the page up to the King’s Solar, a well lit room which showed the king’s increasing martial bent. Swords and slightly undersized armour littered the room and as the Count entered he found the King’s manservant straightening furniture.


“Count Herbert!” came from behind him, in a voice that started high and dropped startlingly through two octaves. Herbert spun and bowed deeply, “Your Grace, it is an honour!”


King Phillipe brushed the Count’s courtesy aside and approached, clasping Herbert’s arm in a good approximation of a warriors grip. “Please, my Lord, sit and take a cup of wine. You were lucky with the rain we’ve thought for sure that you would arrive dripping like a hound!”


“We were fortunate, Your Grace. My chaplain prayed for much of the journey and he appears to have the ear of at least one saint.” Count Herbert replied, trying to match his King’s jovial tone as he poured wine for them both. Once the King sat, the Count did likewise, trying to find the words to broach his business.


“I appreciate you seeing me so quickly Your Grace. I know you have many matters of state…”


“Which are boring!” The king responded leaving his chair to roam around the room, “My tutors spend hours forcing history and stewardship into my head. I wish to be a king! To lead on the battlefield and win glory – as did my father, as did the great Charlemagne your illustrious ancestor!”

His youthful gaze spun to face the Count, “So, my Lord, I have received your proposal for my sister’s hand. It was well written and eloquent – as I would expect from any court scribe. Tell me, Count Herbert. What have you to say for the match?”


Herbert struggled to keep the surprise from his face. ‘Precocious indeed! Someone has prepared him well for this meeting!’ He thought, trying to regain his thoughts, which had been scattered in the face of his young king’s energy.

“There has long been a bond between our houses, Your Grace.” He began, feeling his way in the conversation. “Your sister is already known as a young woman of beauty and intelligence, an honour to you and your family. Any prince would be lucky to gain her hand.” He paused, realising that he was coming across as much too humble. “However, your Grace, there are no princes of Europe who can claim the heritage and family which my son, direct blood of Charlemagne himself! No other family can claim such long and faithful service to you and the House of Capet. We have stood by you through many years, through strife with the Emperor and conflict with your vassals. I stand by you now, your most loyal subject and I have not asked for reward – my holdings are small, but my family is proud, our lineage is the finest and, should you accept the betrothal, then you will have my loyalty and that of my family, from this day until our line ceases.”


The king paused his roaming, watching his Count carefully. “You speak well my Lord, and truly. I know you and your father have long been faithful servants of the crown. Your position on our frontiers against the Empire makes you an important vassal and one who I respect.”


Leaning over the table and looking his Count in the eye, Phillipe would have cut a fine figure if he were a year or two older but, as Herbert felt the chill of rejection creep up his spine, his king suddenly shrank to a boy – a well prepared boy no doubt, but a boy none the less.


“I will not allow your son to marry Princess Emma.” The king said, and Herbert put his goblet on the table, ready to rise and make his departure with what grace he could. “I have something else in mind. You have a daughter as well I understand – Adele? I cannot spare my sister, she is destined to bring me an alliance to help ward off the Empire, but it is important to show that I am a King of France – and a true lord to my vassals.”


The king paused again for a long moment, leaving Herbert on tenterhooks, “My Lord, I would have your daughter’s troth, that we may be married when she comes of suitable age, so she would sit by my side as Queen of the Franks. What say you?”


Herbert dropped to one knee, seizing the king’s hand in both his own. “Your Grace, my liege! You honour me! I would be honoured to call you my son-in-law. I accept, with all my heart!”


Phillipe pulled the Count up and embraced him. “And I will be honoured to call you Father. Now… with that arranged we should think on a suitable match for young Eudes. He will need a bride who will not bring disgrace to the Queen of the Franks. What do you know of Aines d’Poitou…?”

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Very good start! Well written, I see you have learned something from the good @coz1 , as you said in the OP. :) And Ainès, that is the (possible) heir to the south of France, I guess? I remember her from the CK1 days, a sure way to earn power in the French kingdom. :)
 
I agree with @Nikolai...an excellent start! A fine family pedigree and yet another portrayal of Philippe. No one plays him but everyone wishes to use him within the work. :D Fine, crisp dialogue and already some scheming. I enjoyed the closeness between the Count and his wife and as is mentioned, a pact with Poitou is always a thing of interest. (Only one thing - is the Count Herbert, Hubert or Hugues? ;))

Don't let @JabberJock14 nor myself (or any of the other great narrative writAARs out there) scare you. We are all but humble writers hoping to find an audience. You have come to the right place. Welcome to AARland and good luck in this endeavor! :)
 
I remember a great Last Karling AAR or two in the past. Will be interesting to see how it goes. And what a marriage alliance right off the bat. Excellent.
 
GAH! You got the most eligible woman in the realm as a lowly count! I am jealous! You saw what a hassle I had to do to get the Lady Aines in my AAR - I was lucky to get her old aunt as the Count of Tours! Guess that Karling name really is worth something. ;)

A nice start to this. Herbert doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb, but that name can get him far, and with the proper advice and the right marriages, the Karlings may rise from the ashes in the next generation, rather than going extinct.

With a little luck, and perhaps some timely assassinations, a return to Aquitaine may well be in their future. And the backing of Philippe could be very useful, though I'm always leery of kings who get claims on my lands...
 
Karling 1066 is one of my favourite starts, in fact I am playing a game where I moved away from france and became King of Sicily through a victorious Crusade, so I will be following this one for sure.
 
So... tonights game went well... Alix died, her replacement died, King Phillipe died, the Bretons conquered Normandy, Eudes died, Adele became a nun... it was a bloodbath (of cancer mostly)

I couldn't fathom how I could possibly write this, let alone play it, so when Herbert got maimed trying to support the new king I reloaded back to save 1!

There will be an update, once I've replayed the years I've lost and have something to write about!
 
Hah, that's quite something.
 
You are not alone. ;) When you find the story, we will read it. Good luck. :)
 
The Bretons conquered Normandy??!! Now that would have been fun!

But yeah, sounds like that game might have been unsalvageable. A pity, but that can happen. Don't worry about it and eventually, things will break right for your story.
 
This seems promising. Way back in the CK I days, I had a nice De Vermandois (Carolingian) campaign once. I started out with the intention to restore the Carolingians in all the successor states of the empire of Charlemagne. However I ended up with Castile relatively quickly, so instead the Carolingians ended being restored to greatness as the kings of Castile, León, Aragon, Portugal, Sicily and Navarre. Vermandois and Valois itself were granted to a younger brother a remained a distant outpost.
Let’s see where the Carolingians will end up in your story.
 
Subbed despite my slowly receding hatred for all things Karling. I can't stop hating them for what they did to every one of my games several years ago, every now and again I find myself murdering them all, "just because".

Looks fun.
 
Very good start! Well written, I see you have learned something from the good @coz1 , as you said in the OP. :) And Ainès, that is the (possible) heir to the south of France, I guess? I remember her from the CK1 days, a sure way to earn power in the French kingdom. :)

Thank you - my only 'research' for AAR writing has been reading Jabber and Coz so if I can emulate a little of their style then its a good start!

I agree with @Nikolai...an excellent start! A fine family pedigree and yet another portrayal of Philippe. No one plays him but everyone wishes to use him within the work. :D Fine, crisp dialogue and already some scheming. I enjoyed the closeness between the Count and his wife and as is mentioned, a pact with Poitou is always a thing of interest. (Only one thing - is the Count Herbert, Hubert or Hugues? ;))

Don't let @JabberJock14 nor myself (or any of the other great narrative writAARs out there) scare you. We are all but humble writers hoping to find an audience. You have come to the right place. Welcome to AARland and good luck in this endeavor! :)

Is that because he starts the game chronically weak? So no-one wants to BE him, but we all love an underdog so he gets lots of sympathetic writing? I certainly like him - fingers crossed he has a great future. (He does get a nickname at least...)

I remember a great Last Karling AAR or two in the past. Will be interesting to see how it goes. And what a marriage alliance right off the bat. Excellent.

GAH! You got the most eligible woman in the realm as a lowly count! I am jealous! You saw what a hassle I had to do to get the Lady Aines in my AAR - I was lucky to get her old aunt as the Count of Tours! Guess that Karling name really is worth something. ;)

A nice start to this. Herbert doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb, but that name can get him far, and with the proper advice and the right marriages, the Karlings may rise from the ashes in the next generation, rather than going extinct.

With a little luck, and perhaps some timely assassinations, a return to Aquitaine may well be in their future. And the backing of Philippe could be very useful, though I'm always leery of kings who get claims on my lands...

Regarding Aines: definitely the best marriage out there, hoping that Guilhem dies early or otherwise fails to produce offspring. And Jabber - what do you expect? I'm the scion of the world's mightiest king. Foulques was a no-body from northern France - there's no comparison! :p

More seriously I was impressed too - so given that Phillipe accepted a proposal too it seemed sensible that he had signalled his approval and that helped win Duke Guilhem round. It certainly wasn't my military might which did it!

And yes, Herbert isn't the brightest spark (those stats... :|) so it makes sense that Alix (who can at least scheme) will be important. And yes, the marriages are going to be vital!

The Bretons conquered Normandy??!! Now that would have been fun!

It certainly made the map look different - but House Karling was almost extinct by then and I didn't think Chapter 2 being called "And then they all died" was a great way to carry on an AAR...

Karling 1066 is one of my favourite starts, in fact I am playing a game where I moved away from france and became King of Sicily through a victorious Crusade, so I will be following this one for sure.

Subbed despite my slowly receding hatred for all things Karling. I can't stop hating them for what they did to every one of my games several years ago, every now and again I find myself murdering them all, "just because".

Glad to see there are other Karling fans. I've never played in France before (tended to do Italy - which is my one true historical love) so this is new to me. Blame Jabber!

Update to follow shortly!
 
Chapter 2
25th July 1067, Vermandois.


Count Herbert looked around his council table, meeting each of his advisor’s eyes in turn. Only his wife’s returned a smile, although Mayor Pierre of San Quentin and Bishop Raymond both nodded respectfully. Herbert returned their salutations, thankful that he had not had to remove either of his vassals from the council. The removal of Nicolas as steward left the council in good shape, his vassals, his family and his own, handpicked Chancellor.

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“My lords, we meet here today to welcome a new member of this council and to discuss the state of Vermandois.” Herbert began, trying to remember the script he and Alix had worked out the night before. “First I ask you all to welcome my new Chancellor, Diego Martin, to our ranks.” A murmur of welcome ran round the table as Chancellor Martin bowed, his dark, Hispanic eyes sweeping the rest of the group.


“Thank you my lord. May I also offer my congratulations to Mayor Pierre on his appointment as Marshal, and my lord Bishop on his new role as steward – I know they have both served you well my lord. I hope I can contribute as greatly as they have.”


At the far end of the table Alix caught her husband’s eye and nodded in approval as the new chancellor played his part. Herbert smiled in response as both his Marshall and Steward swelled in their chairs, clearly flattered. ‘Diego plays his part well. This bodes well.’


“Now my lords.” He spoke, returning their attention to him. “What news from our county?”


Mayor Pierre stood first. “My Lord, you can marshal some four hundred men from your personal levy and your Lord Steward and I offer another hundred or so to the cause.”


Countess Alix spoke up from her place opposite her husband. “We pray that you shall not be required to do so my lord. Peace is a great blessing.”


Seeing the Mayor looking somewhat put out by his wife’s comment, Herbert moved swiftly on. “Bishop Raymond, what is the state of our finances?”


“The treasury is not strong, my Lord.” The Bishop replied, looking slightly sheepish. “Your taxes are levied with regularity and your people pay promptly, but this is not the richest part of France, and raids from the Duchy of Lorraine have caused some damage in recent months.”


Herbert nodded again, his low income was a sore point. Although Father Jacques had never instilled much latin in the mind of his noble pupil, he had ensured that Herbert could count – and reviewing his own finances had caused the Count more than one sleepless night.

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“In which case, my Lords, we should move on to wider matters. I am sure you all know that the Duke of Normandy sailed some months ago for England – to press his claim for the crown.” A low murmur acknowledged this, although Chancellor Diego looked slightly uneasy.


“He fought, not only with King Harold, but also another claimant – King Harold Hardrada of Norway. Our good king Phillipe hoped that this war would drag on for some time, dividing England and humbling our good duke.” More murmurs of agreement, the Bastard was not much liked in Vermandois and Alix, in particular, looked murderous. Duke William had threatened her father’s lands more than once.


“A courier brought word from Melun.” Herbert continued, “and with it startling news.” He looked once more around the table; seeing every eye locked to his own he continued. “King Hardrada is dead, and with it – his claim to the English throne. The Bastard has defeated King Harold in battle and invested his capital of Middlesex. There is a new king of England, a Norman King. Now my Lords, my question to you – is how does this affect us?”

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Chancellor Diego is first to speak, his agile mind ahead of the rest of the council. “It makes the Duchy of Normandy the borders of a foreign country – not all that far from your, my Lord. With the Empire to our east we run the risk of being encircled, especially since the Duke of Normandy has ties to the Duke of Flanders.” The slight rise in his voice added a hint of questioning to the end of that statement, but meeting no check from the rest of the council he continued with increased confidence.

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“It would seem prudent therefore, to build alliances wherever you might, my Lord. I am happy to journey to whatever courts you would see fit to deliver your proposals in person.”


Alix nodded. “My Lord Father, whose lands border our own, and the Bastard’s, would no doubt welcome such proposals. Perhaps Lord Guilhem, as well, now that his heir and ours are betrothed, would see the value of committing to his grandchildren’s inheritance.”


Bishop Raymond nodded. “It is a sound plan my Lord. My only council is that we cannot afford lavish present at this time, I fear we must rely on goodwill alone.”


Looking to the only silent member of the council, Herbert attempted to rouse his brother. “And what does my Court Chaplain have to say on this matter?”


Pierre Karling looked up from his belly and regarded his brother with something close to contempt. “It does not touch on my purview, my lord. I have little to say on the matter.”


Herbert felt his hackles rising at his brother’s naked insolence, but seeing Alix shake her head, he tamped down his feelings and continued civilly, through gritted teeth. “Asking is a point of courtesy, Brother. If you have nothing to say then I consider the matter closed. Thank you, my Lords. We will meet again in due course.”


He gestured for Chancellor Martin to keep his seat and sank into his own to speak man-to-man with his chancellor. “You did well sir, I am impressed by your insight. I would have you travel to Amiens and speak with my father by law. Then onwards to Aquitaine, we form what alliances we can in the face of the Norman threat.”


The Chancellor rose and bowed. “I will act upon your will immediately my Lord.”


As he departed Alix slipped back into the council chamber, sidling up behind her husband and rubbing his shoulder soothingly. “You did well my dear. You were commanding and the council listened.”


Herbert smiled up fondly at his wife. “What would I do without you, my dear? You’re far better at these intrigues than I.”


“Nonsense my dear.” Alix scoffed, her fingers digging in slightly harder. “You would do fine without me, as long as you keep your pride in check. You know Pierre does it to rile you – don’t give him the satisfaction!”


Herbert nodded again, his head dropping slightly as his wife’s fingers eased the stress from his muscles. “You’re right, I know. I’ll try – just give me a sign if you see me slipping.”


Alix smiled over his head, “I may not be at council meetings for much longer my dear.” Grasping one of her husband’s hands she pulled it behind his back to rest on her stomach. “I am with child again.”

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The Count’s face lit up and he leapt from his chair. “You are pregnant, thanks be to God! Should you be on your feet? Sit down at once!”


Alix laughed and tried to bat her husband’s hands away, but only succeeded in helping him draw her into his embrace. “Stop it! I’m fine. It will be months yet and I have delivered you two children already. I know my limits.” Pulling him into a deep kiss she continued after a moment. “Although, being pregnant does mean I have certain… needs…”


Her husband’s smile turned predatory, and then faded again as he saw his wife’s lips quirking. “And what do you need, my darling?”


Alix’s grin spread right across her face. “Cheese tarts?” She asked, looking slightly sheepish.


The Count’s laugh echoed through the castle as the Lord and Lady of Vermandois headed for the kitchens.
 
This is a rather sweet little post. Knowing CK2, I doubt it will remain so sweet for long.
 
Those Normans can be troublesome, especially if the king gets too weak. It will be interesting to see what exactly he and Guilhem can get up to. Obviously Guilhem holds a fairly massive levy for that point in the game and can do a lot of damage. But William is quite strong as well, especially if he had an easy conquering of England (which it looks like he has).

And I second the fact that everything is working out too well. Trouble's always around the corner in CK2.

Is that because he starts the game chronically weak? So no-one wants to BE him, but we all love an underdog so he gets lots of sympathetic writing? I certainly like him - fingers crossed he has a great future. (He does get a nickname at least...)

I think @coz1 portrayal of Philippe in the Rightful King helped influence people a bit. It did mine to a degree. Though I originally was setting him up to be charming enough where I could have a good rivalry between him and Foulques as they had in real life. It just didn't work out that way. It is funny, because he was quite a you-know-what in real life, considering the whole stealing of Foulques' wife while he was married thing and violating papal orders to leave her.

As for why no one wants to play him? I actually think it's because he's too strong. CK2 (and Medieval Total War 2 as well) struggles to model the state of the Frankish monarchy of the time. It was incredibly weak but incredibly stable. In video games weak is inherently unstable (CK2 models this concept a little better than MTW2, but really only if a player is at the controls). But the Capetian kings pre-Philippe II were both weak and stable - evidence for that is in Philippe I himself - he was in a long regency and yet held on to power despite the presence of a powerful, robber baron uncle (who had raised rebellions before) and numerous warlord vassals. Outside dynasties simply did not challenge the Capetians for the Frankish/French crown until arguably the Plantagenets, and that was because of the collapse of the Capetian male line for the first time in centuries.

Pre-conclave, as in coz's game, France tends to be a mess because it's hard to keep all those dukes in line with just the ile-de France. It becomes a disaster. Post-conclave, all you have to do is stick Flanders, Burgundy, Aquitaine and Toulouse on the council and you've got a stable realm. If William loses in England then bump Burgundy for him. Or you can marry Emma/Hugues to the extra vassal's family to get a non-aggression pact. And if the HRE attacks, you might lose Zeeland, but you can also blitz Iberia with Holy Wars. Once you survive the regency years, Philippe could be an extremely powerful king. Heck he nearly pulled it off while AI controlled in my game.

It actually is tempting me to give it a spin just to see how quickly I could big blue blob the west. But like I said, I'd imagine he doesn't get played because it's no longer that difficult a start.

Sorry for that long ramble and looking forward to the next chapter!