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bloomoonneptun

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Welcome, to a new mod in development called " The Old Order ", an alternate history mod where advanced technology rules a different, yet familiar world, all in the 19th century!


The mod, starting on the 11th of December, 1871, will have :

- The E3 map, containing 8021 provinces, over the 2770 vanilla ones
- A new, bigger, improved, and of course steampunk tech tree
- Overhauled graphics, from flags to interface, to sprites and everything else
- A very large amount of detailed and meaningful events
- A character and nation system represented with events and the interface, where you decide your character's fate and your nation's fate
- A ( possible ) overhauled combat system, where you have brigades consisted of battalions, and it works similar to HoI III
- A high quality sound track, with a lot of songs and ambient sounds for some events
- New modifiers of all kinds, ranging from manpower and resource production, to modifiers for goverment, religion, culture, industrial or tribal etc.

- New nation system :

- Development level: Non-western, Semi-Industrialised, Industrialised

- Government Structure: Tribal, Decentralised, Centralise

- For monarchies: Duchy, Grand Duchy, Kingdom, Empire




So, I've decided to release a battle scenario as a sort of testing ground for any new features that will be added in the future. Anyway, I present to you :
Advent of Energy - 1814 Battle Scenario

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/baquv2y5uuznuo2/The Old Order.rar?dl=0

Map ( E3 Map )
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North America
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South America
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Central America and The Caribbean
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Some of the historical events that happened in this world ( They are being reworked so this may not be accurate in the future ):


1812: Napoleon defeated in Russia
1813,June-November: Coalition forces advance on France
1813,November: French forces manage to establish a defensive line on the Rhine
1813,December: French scientists develop a weapon that uses electricity
1814,March: Coalition forces storm the French positions on the Rhine
1814,March: French defense holds
1814,April:Coalition forces invade from Spain
1814,April:French forces in full retreat in the south
1814,April:French forces manage to stop the coalition forces advancing from the south
1814,April:Napoleon orders the first prototypes of these new "Wonder Weapons" just as the French defense in the west and in Italy collapses
1814,May:Major French victory in the south, near Tolouse
1814,May:40,000 French troops defeat 250,000 Prussian,British and Austrian troops only 20 miles from Paris
1814,May:French counter-attack manages to push coalition forces out of France
1814,June:French forces take back Belgium and establish a defensive line on the Rhine
1814,June:French forces push the British back into Spain
1814,June:French forces reach Milan
1814,July:A combined coalition force of 1,080,000 men storm the French positions in Italy and on the Rhine
1814,July:Coalition forces stop the attack after taking over 250,000 casualties
1814,July:Concerns grow about these new "Wonder Weapons" in the Coalition
1814,July:Britain starts its own research on this new technology
1814,August:Austria and Prussia start research on these new weapons
1814,August:French forces reach Madrid
1814,September:Britain starts sending out the first prototypes of the new weapons
1814,September:French forces reach Vienna
1814,September the 29th:French forces sack Vienna, Austria surrenders
1814,October the 14th:French siege of Berlin begins
1814,October the 16th:British units using the new prototype arrive just in time to break the siege in Berlin
1814,October the 19th:French forces are forced to retreat
1814,November the 18th:Austria declares war on France and joins the coalition
1814,December:Austria start using the new weapons
1814,December:French set up a defensive position on the Rhine again
1814,December:New weapons are working poorly in the cold conditions, both sides dig in on the Rhine
1815,January:Madrid falls to French forces
1815,February:The war enters a stalemate on the Rhine and in Italy
1815,July:New weapon designs are being tested, as well as a prototype design for more protective uniforms
1816,March:First uniforms designed to use electricity
1816,July:Ottomans use the war in Europe as an opportunity to take back Egypt
1816,August:Ottomans declare war on Tunisia
1816,December:Ideas about combining armor and electricity into " Power Armour "
1817,February:Ottomans attack Persia
1818,July:Ottomans expand to Somalia in Africa
1821,November the 13th: France and the Coalition start talks about peace
1821,December the 24th: Peace of Rome proclaimed, signed by the Pope Himself
1822,July:Brazil breaks away from Portugal
1823,February: Portugal defeats Brazil using new prototype weapons and makes it a colony again
1824,December the 30th:Britain declares war on the United States of America
1825,July:Britain captures Washington
1825,August:Britain takes Boston and New York
1825,September:Britain invades Florida
1825,December: The peace of Washington is declared, Britain wins and forces reparations on the USA
1831,July:China invades Korea and Vietnam
1836,November:Russia and Britain sign a treaty about British and Russian colonization of North America
1844:Britain makes Burma and Siam a protectorate
1845:Britain makes Vietnam a protectorate
1855:Colonization of Africa begins
1856:First ship to use "Tesla Guns" is British battleship HMS Glorious
1859:Scientists predict global cooling as each year the winters become on average 0.1 C cooler
1861:Scientists make flying airships called " Zeppelins "
1863:Zeppelins start using Tesla Guns
1864:A new alloy starts being used as armor for Zeppelins
1865:New " Land Ship " prototype
1867:First crisis in Europe since the Peace of Rome, France breaks the treaty by occupying the Grand Duchy of Baden
1869:Another violation by France, the occupation of the Netherlands alarms the other Great Powers as they begin to mobilize
1870:Great Powers meet in Rome to assure that peace is preserved
1871,November:Coldest winter on record yet
1871,December the 11th: Your story begins here...Will you conquer all who would stand against you or will you become another forgotten name in history?

Techs:

Infantry:
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Armor&Artillery:


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Naval:


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Progress on the mod:

Map: Done, save for a few provinces
Events: None yet
Technology: Working on it
Province values: None
Units: None ( not before technology is finished )
Leaders: None ( will be done last )
Ministers: None
Flags: Working on it

Here is a template for posting your ideas about ministers for specific nations ( I especially need ones for the minor nations ):

Head of State:

Head of Government:

Foreign Minister:

Armaments Minister:

Minister of Security:

Head of Intelligence:

Chief of Staff:

Chief of the Army:

Chief of the Navy:

Chief of the Air Force:

Template for nations:

Alright, so given that I'm going start on the events soon, if any of you have any suggestions about any smaller/minor nations, here's the template for that as well:
Name:

Colour:

Flag:

Primary culture:

Religion:

Development level: Non-western, Semi-Industrialised, Industrialised

Government Structure: Tribal, Decentralised, Centralised

For monarchies: Duchy, Grand Duchy, Kingdom, Empire

Ministers: You can copy the ministers template and fill it out here

Map: You insert a map of the nations borders here


Note: You do not need to fill out everything, but filling out as much as possible would really help

Important: I have already finished the map and will start on events in a few days, so after that this will be removed

Template for events:

Template for events:

Name has to be this big:

The event itself:

Easy, just copy the event

Let me know if I missed anything!


That's all for now, folks.

I will release new history updates and updates on the progress of the mod as time goes on.
Remember I accept ideas for events, ministers, technologies, units, leaders, even battle scenarios.
Also, pictures, lots and lots of pictures.
 
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Your story seems interesting but if France defeated Russia, then how come Austria and Prussia declared war on it again?
Prussia was basically completely occupied by France following the invasion of Russia and Austria only declared war on France after it became evident that Napoléons whole army got destroyed in Russia
 
Your story seems interesting but if France defeated Russia, then how come Austria and Prussia declared war on it again?
Prussia was basically completely occupied by France following the invasion of Russia and Austria only declared war on France after it became evident that Napoléons whole army got destroyed in Russia
France did not defeat Russia, Napoleon lost against Russia in 1812 but managed to get a white peace in 1821 because nobody could win the war.
Edit: As for Prussia and Austria, after Napoleon retreated to establish a defensive position behind the Rhine in 1812/1813, they just joined the coalition and declared war against France again.
 
Update:
Map is finished, head of states for the great powers are done, flags are done, names are done, province values are almost complete.

As for the other ministers ( other than head of state ) I will probably need some help for specific countries.
Military leaders will be done last, I think.
Province values are still being worked on.
I will start working on technology and units now.
 
France did not defeat Russia, Napoleon lost against Russia in 1812 but managed to get a white peace in 1821 because nobody could win the war.
Edit: As for Prussia and Austria, after Napoleon retreated to establish a defensive position behind the Rhine in 1812/1813, they just joined the coalition and declared war against France again.

Ah I'm sorry, I read "Napoleon DEFEATED Russia" instead of "Napoleon defeated IN Russia"
 
Just curious, but how long of a scenario is it? 1871 to, when?
1871 to 9999
If you're talking about when will it dull down ( no more events, technology limit, etc. ) I'd say about 1910.
Edit: I might give it an end date later on.
 
Is there suppose to be a story line for a world war later in the game?
or is it not done?
Yes, and the chances for one gets progressively bigger as the game goes on.
As for the war itself, I'm thinking France and allies vs Coalition type thing, although there will be a third alliance as well, and of course countries will not choose the same alliance every game.
So, the system will work like this: There will be diplomatic crisis' which can evolve into a World War and then countries can either join the existing alliances, create new ones, remain neutral or just attack one side alone.
 
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Yes, and the chances for one get progressively bigger as the game goes on.
As for the war itself, I'm thinking France and allies vs Coalition type thing, although there will be a third alliance as well, and of course countries will not choose the same alliance every game.
So, the system will work like this: There will be diplomatic crisis' which can evolve into a World War and then countries can either join the existing alliances, create new ones, remain neutral or just attack one side alone.

I have an idea, since communism is just getting started, maybe there should be a revolution in one of the great powers. And a communist alliance could be the third one.
 
I have an idea, since communism is just getting started, maybe there should be a revolution in one of the great powers. And a communist alliance could be the third one.
I was planing to do something like this : There will be different revolutions ( democratic and communist revolutions ) along with nationalist and pan-nationalist uprisings.
The third alliance would most likely be led by the United States of America, but newly formed democratic and even less radical communist countries could join.
 
I was planing to do something like this : There will be different revolutions ( democratic and communist revolutions ) along with nationalist and pan-nationalist uprisings.
The third alliance would most likely be led by the United States of America, but newly formed democratic and even less radical communist countries could join.

I like the idea. And i have another ideas...

1: There should be a nationalist movement in Germany to unite Germany under one flag to counter France.
2: After a few years after Russia's entry into the war, there should be a democratic revolution and if it succeeds they make peace with France.
3: (Going off the Nationalist idea) After Germany unites, nationalism spreads to other regions of Europe like italy, Austria, and the Ottoman Empire.
 
I like the idea. And i have another ideas...

1: There should be a nationalist movement in Germany to unite Germany under one flag to counter France.
2: After a few years after Russia's entry into the war, there should be a democratic revolution and if it succeeds they make peace with France.
3: (Going off the Nationalist idea) After Germany unites, nationalism spreads to other regions of Europe like italy, Austria, and the Ottoman Empire.


1: There is already a pan-nationalist German and Italian movement. However, it is currently suppressed by the German states in fear of retribution by France. It has also caused a divide between Prussia and Austria as neither wants the other to unite the German states.
2: If Russia loses enough men, there will be a revolution ( democratic, communist or perhaps something else ). However, France will probably demand a lot of land in that case.
3: Nationalism is already present in those nations, it's just not as strong and is currently suppressed. It will also work the same as with Russia ( if that nation loses enough men, land, civilian population is suffering etc. a revolution will happen ) Note : This does not mean that a revolution will not happen if there is not currently a war.
 
Maybe there should be a fourth alliance for communists or something like that.
There probably will be a fourth alliance for communist countries, just not one of the three main alliances ( it will be one of the minor alliances ).
That's just how I imagine it will be like for now, I might change it in the future.