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The problem with the pops mechanics

CantGetNoSleep · 2024-08-10T21:44:16+00:00

Right as I start a game, I often find myself thinking: why even bother with a main species? I realistically have two options in this game: 1) Be xenophobic, and hate everyone and embrace slavery, or 2) Don't even bother designing your main species Why? Well, if you're xenophiles, or egalitarian, or neither but want migration treaties, or perhaps even just allow refugees in, then: 3) as soon as you allow anyone else in, your main species stops growing. Full stop. It seems the game is hell bent on achieving "parity" between the species. Worse still, the absolutely useless pops who have some sort of adaptability will displace your entire people. Wanted to tech rush? Nah. All your new pops are adaptable serviles. Wanted to do unity? Nah, your new pops are adaptable serviles. Wanted to focus on food and agrarian ideal? Nah, all your new pops are now adaptable serviles. Shall I go on? It doesn't matter that there's only 1 pop in the entire empire. From here on, every single planet, in every single sector, will breed useless species. I mean, why bother with a main species at all? Just ignore everything and go synth or biologic or xenophobe. As those are your only options. Please fix this. Growth should be based on existing pop numbers unless you as the player decide to do something pretty freaky.

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Start date Aug 10, 2024

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Eladrin

Stellaris Game Director

Paradox Staff

Aug 12, 2024

One of the things on my "experiment with this" list is simultaneous per-species empire-wide pop growth. Not exactly sure how some things will interact with it, but there are some aspects of the current pop growth system I'm not happy with.

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