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The Prince of Novgorod-Seversky in 1337 was Rurikovich Dmitry Svyatoslavich, the son of Svyatoslav Davydovich
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Olgyv said:
The Prince of Novgorod-Seversky in 1337 was Rurikovich Dmitry Svyatoslavich, the son of Svyatoslavich Davyd
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While pointing out historical inaccuracies it always recommended, I would caution against "verified by Wikipedia" as a source.
 
SAS said:
Указывая на исторические неточности, которые всегда рекомендовалось, я бы предостерег от использования слова «проверено Википедией» в качестве источника.
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I agree, but he is also in the chronicle as the last prince before the conquest of the city by Gediminovich in 1352.
 
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Firstly, no, that last
Olgyv said:
I agree, but he is also in the chronicle as the last prince before the conquest of the city by Gediminovich in 1352.
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No, it is mentioned that they were listed as XIII-century princes, then there were no data until 1350s when the Lithuanians got full control over it.
 
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ryhs said:
While I won't argue with that we can be pretty sure he was a Rurikovich and not "random generated dynasty name"
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Totally agree.
In any case, in youtube videos it looked like Chernihiv, Nohvorod-Siverskyi, Starodub and Bryansk were all in a personal union under Bryansk and Rurikid dynasty. That is also a possible solution.
 
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Kotyk-durkotyk said:
Totally agree.
In any case, in youtube videos it looked like Chernihiv, Nohvorod-Siverskyi, Starodub and Bryansk were all in a personal union under Bryansk and Rurikid dynasty. That is also a possible solution.
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I totally agree, and Rurikovich was in Rylsk. P.S. I hope the developers will see this and fix it) P.S.S I don't agree about Novgorod-Seversky, he was mentioned back in the Battle of Irpeni.
 
SAS said:
While pointing out historical inaccuracies it always recommended, I would caution against "verified by Wikipedia" as a source.
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And Starodub is ruled by Prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich, the son of Fyodor Ivanovich, who was also killed in the horde, do not forget to fix it)
 
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Olgyv said:
Can you tell the developers, please?
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The developers read the forum. And here they do not need to fix it.
Even when you use Wikipedia as a source, try sometimes a few more clicks.

The prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich ruled in another Starodub near Vladimir, not in Severia. And that Starodub (on Klyazma) has proper Rurikovich dynasty.
 
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Well, will you change the Prince of Novgorod-Seversky to Dmitry Rurikovich Svyatoslavich? It's even in the annals.
Kotyk-durkotyk said:
The developers read the forum. And here they do not need to fix it.
Even when you use Wikipedia as a source, try sometimes a few more clicks.

The prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich ruled in another Starodub near Vladimir, not in Severia. And that Starodub (on Klyazma) has proper Rurikovich dynasty.
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Kotyk-durkotyk said:
The developers read the forum. And here they do not need to fix it.
Even when you use Wikipedia as a source, try sometimes a few more clicks.

The prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich ruled in another Starodub near Vladimir, not in Severia. And that Starodub (on Klyazma) has proper Rurikovich dynasty.
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I looked at everything. The prince of Starodub-Seversky was the Prince of Bryansk, Gleb Svyatoslavich, who was also the Prince of Rylsk.
 
Kotyk-durkotyk said:
The developers read the forum. And here they do not need to fix it.
Even when you use Wikipedia as a source, try sometimes a few more clicks.

The prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich ruled in another Starodub near Vladimir, not in Severia. And that Starodub (on Klyazma) has proper Rurikovich dynasty.
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Kotyk-durkotyk said:
The developers read the forum. And here they do not need to fix it.
Even when you use Wikipedia as a source, try sometimes a few more clicks.

The prince Dmitry Fyodorovich Rurikovich ruled in another Starodub near Vladimir, not in Severia. And that Starodub (on Klyazma) has proper Rurikovich dynasty.
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Have you fixed the historical discrepancy? P. S
I'm talking about Prince Novgorod-Seversky.
 
SAS said:
While pointing out historical inaccuracies it always recommended, I would caution against "verified by Wikipedia" as a source.
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Isn't that something one of the AIs adds automatically?

So OP created a new thread for information from Wikipedia through ai for which a thread already exists?
 
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