MattyG said:
Unfortunately, the poeple who argued for Vinland's inclusion and promised material never delivered. What's in there is just the few events I wrote to ensure nothing too silly happens (like conversion changing them to Eirean culture ...)
Note that the Vinland populations begin very small, but even these are far greater than they ought to be, if one assures a few boatloads of people and normal human population growth. So if you are going to have them conquering Norway then it either is a stretch, or else they need to have interbred fairly fiercely with the skraelings.
I had a couple of ideas for how they could have expanded their population.
1. The settlers from Greenland could have migrated to Novo Scotia at some point in the game (1423), bringing with them many people and shipbuilding techniques. No map to greenland to allow the Irish to get it.
2. They start converting the Natives. Then as you said, interbreeding with them like crazy.
3. They don't grow much in population size until 1419. They start with 1 basic city, 2 colonies (on that main island). Then trading posts all around in northern canada on the coast. Novoscotia, Isle royale, arcadie, etc. Say 5 of them total? lvl 1 posts to start with, but can be expanded.
Then remember that Norway doesn't normally last very long in Interregnum, although this may change if we ever get to see freiksenet1987's new material for the Union/Norway.
Instead of a physical conquest, perhaps the potential is for one of the Vinlanders to have a viable claim on the throne of Norway and so one of two things can occur:
1. If there is no Norway, the return of this long-lost royal relative sparks a rebellion against Scottish/Union rulers or;
2. If there IS a norway, then the individual has a claim on the throne that causes a political crisis.
Just remember that although the idea is fun, it will need to pass the test of plausibility or it won't make it in. bobtdwarf and Incompetant and freiksenet will be great resources for discussion on what is genuinely viable.
For me, the important thing are the events and storylines prior to the arrival of the first Europeans (probbaly Eire).
MattyG
Well this seems to answer the question about population. Once Norway is captured and Vinland is discovered, then thousands of norwegians could emigrate to Vinland. They would bring with them Christianity, a latin tech group, lots of technology, as well as explorers and conquistadors.
About them remaining Pagan-I think that they would have a choice about whether to convert to Catholicism, or remain Pagan. However, their individual provinces would all be catholic fromt he immigrating norwegians. Hmm. Maybe they could also have a chocie to force the newcomers to convert to astaru, in which case the provinces wouldn't be catholic.
Perhaps there conflict with the Kalmar union could start whenthe Vinland peple demand Iceland. Saying that it was their expedition which found it, so it would be their core. They would also demand Greenland from the Irish, but the Irish ai would give it to them, while the Kalmar Ai wouldn't.
