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Foulwick46

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Trying to learn a couple of Paradox games...EU4 and CK2.....The last seems really complex...I am now 68...to old to learn?:eek:
I have both games.....I'm afraid the civ games are as complex as I've played:mellow:
Tom
 
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Keep calm and do the tutorials :) Let's play videos are also a good way to learn a game.

You know what they say, you are never to old to learn!
 
I'm 58 going on 8, according to my wife, so if you want a hand from a "young'un" with anything specific, give me a PM.
 
These games just take patience and a little determination to learn. I went with Victoria 2 first and Hearts of Iron 3 second, apparently those are the hardest ones to learn and I felt it. They took me months (actually I'm STILL learning new things in them) but with each new games I noticed a few new things and eventually it all came together.

The tutorials really helped learn the most basic aspects of the games and there are countries that are better to learn with. In CK2 I highly recommend trying out the Duke of Munster on the 1066 start date. He is generally seen as one of the easiest starts in the game and I learned a TON starting there.
In EU4 France is good for learning how to fights wars, as France has a great advantage you have some room to fail/learn.
Portugal is also a good safe location, keep relations with Spain high and you're golden. Can learn colonization, trade and naval mechanics fairly well with them.
 
Victoria 2 is probably both the hardest and the mist fun/rewarding in many ways. of the Paradox game.

If you're wanting to learn it start with Belgium or Sweden first. Belgium has factories already built and has access to some good resources. You can learn about building industry in a relatively safe way. Sweden is another decent country to learn with, but it has a smaller population and lacks as many decent resources for industrialization, it does have a highly literate populace though.

Basic tips: RAISE LITERACY FIRST! This means raising clergymen to about 2% in every state. You want 2% nationally anyways to get full research points from them.
If you want help learning I can help. Send me a message or just start a post in the Victoria 2 section.
 
For Victoria i recommend a few restarts as Victoria punishes screwing up early but playing is a great way to learn.

Also if you give up these two tutorials takes six hours but explains everything slowly but properly.

[video=youtube;cRcANnOQV-E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcANnOQV-E[/video]

[video=youtube;a2Fy_gkyrxs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Fy_gkyrxs[/video]

They are for the latest expansion but if you don't have them then they are worth it.

Also the "register button" in the game launcher lets you write your cd-key (that is not used for anything else) and make it so that you can prove you own the game and get tech support and enter the user modifications forum.

Anyway the best tip is to have fun. If you get fustrated then you should take a break.
 
I 'learned' how to play Victoria 2 by watching Quill18's Japan series, totally recommended (long but very entertaining):

[video=youtube;yRhgfMH-dNs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhgfMH-dNs[/video]
 
Foulwick46 said:
Trying to learn a couple of Paradox games...EU4 and CK2.....The last seems really complex...I am now 68...to old to learn?:eek:
I have both games.....I'm afraid the civ games are as complex as I've played:mellow:
Tom
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I'm in my twenties and can't understand CK2.. I think you're fine.
 
It all boils down to understanding the mechanics and the rules so that you can take advantage of it. A good solid understanding in history may make you appreciate the game more but not necessarily help you learn better since some mechanics may appear counter-intuitive. If there is something you do not know, consult the game wiki or ask on the relevant sub-forum. Most players are quite keen to help -> me included.
 
For Crusader Kings 2, the first thing to learn are the succession laws, which most people recommend doing by playing an Irish count (in 1066, after the viking invasions). Put your chancellor in neighbouring territories and you have a chance of gaining a claim in several years.
Push each claim, and try to get your eldest son to marry daughters of other Irish leaders, for allies and claims (most daughters pass on weak claims which can be pressed if the title holder is a child, a cripple or a woman).

You'll work your way up from count to duke to king of Ireland, and by that point you should have enough knowledge of the basic game to play the Byzantine Empire, France, England, or any other major power.
 
spartanlemur said:
For Crusader Kings 2, the first thing to learn are the succession laws, which most people recommend doing by playing an Irish count (in 1066, after the viking invasions). Put your chancellor in neighbouring territories and you have a chance of gaining a claim in several years.
Push each claim, and try to get your eldest son to marry daughters of other Irish leaders, for allies and claims (most daughters pass on weak claims which can be pressed if the title holder is a child, a cripple or a woman).

You'll work your way up from count to duke to king of Ireland, and by that point you should have enough knowledge of the basic game to play the Byzantine Empire, France, England, or any other major power.
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This is how I first learnt the game, so I reccommend this solution as well.
 
For CK2 start as an Ireland count/duke: Easy to expand inside the island, and after that nobody bothers you so you can invade Scotland or ally Scotland and invade England at your own pace, and then move to continental Europe whenever you feel like.
For EU4 start as Portugal: Your only possible threat is Castille and they're your friends so just ally them and you'll be free to explore Africa and America at your own pace.
For V2 start as United States: They're OP in their region and nobody bothers them, plus they won't be involved in all the European conflicts for quite a long time.
 
This was how I learned the game.... this particular series:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL71983E0A94A47DA0

Never looked back, it took a long time (the games are some of the most complex in the world) but now I am quite good at CK2.

On a side note, I really like that host Das, and follow his channel years later as I enjoy his very patient and relaxed commentary and explanation.

Cannot recommend it more.
 
Good luck in learning the games! Great ones :)
 
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