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I was playing as Prussia and the event triggered for the Austro-Prussian War around 1855. I was well prepared and had a number of what I thought were effective armies. When I moved them into Czech, however, I found the 10,000-men strong Austrian Armies had a significant advantage: 100 to 118 morale. I was high on the tech tree, but even I only had like a 30 to 50 morale for my troops, depending on type. Luckily, they weren't that prepared and I was able to overwhelm them in numbers long enough to rack up a high enough war score to force reparations on them thus getting the "won war" flag.

In fact, I only ever at the end of the game, with all techs researched, got as high as 70-80 depending on the type. I noticed that France, who sucked in this particular game, had much worse morale than I did. But Sweden and Switzerland both had outragously high (or I had outragously low) morale. When Austria declared war on me again in 1920, they were better prepared and pretty muched wiped away my entire grand army in a matter of seconds. Luckily, the end of the game happened.

The point is, I hope this is a bug because at the highest tech level, I should have better morale and the AI should not have great morale in the 1850s. There is no way to win against such foes unless you can put overwhelming force on to the field, which is impossible unless you are the UK (and even then, against an Austrian army of 200,000?). The same thing happened in a game I was playing as the US against the Netherlands. Perhaps this is related to the AI always having Swedes in their armies (a previously reported bug)?

On a related note, is there a problem with the French AI? I almost every game I've played so far, they have no industrial might, no railroads, and no colonies leaving West Africa almost wholely to the Russians. Kind of takes some of the fun out of playing as the UK or Germany...
 
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100 morale does sound high for the 1850'ies, even if (as I suspect) they have Jominian attitude and have invested in Army Leadership tech while you have Clausewitzian Theory. Do you have a save game?
 
I can get it tonight (for towards the end of the game, but not the 1850s). Should I e-mail that one to you?
 
Derek Pullem, the bug forum mod, is the one collecting save games, but if you do not have one from the 1850'ies when you observed the high morale, I doubt it will be of much use.

In general, there is nothing wrong with one nation ending up in the 120'ies morale while another nation ends up in the 80'ies with all techs researched. That just means that the first nation had Jominian Attitude, the second Clausewitzian theory. By the end of the game it is pretty easy to see which category each country falls into by reading their morale. (And likewise organisation. If you end up with 130+ in the late-game, you have Clausewitzian theory for sure).

But 100-120 in 1855. That is something special :D
 
So long as no "editing" was involved send it to victoria dot bugs at btinternet dot com

Zipped please and a link to this thread