I mean, by uniting my market countries with low populations I'm just supplying them with a lot of stuff they need.
By uniting my rich country with the giant nations instead, like india or china, I'm also supplying them with the stuff they need AND I'm missing on the opportunity to actually trade with them, using my huge trade advantage for massive exports/imports and from other bonuses/treaties as I could have had access to all of their goods for a much lower price, and sell them mine for a much higher price, plus tariffs.
Am I wrong in thinking that forming a trade power bloc is kind of pointless, perhaps even detrimental, right now?
I can see the point if you want to attract their immigrants, but you don't really have to share markets with them, just pick freedom of movement and grant them all their own markets so you can enjoy actual trade with your own members.
Edit: Here's a crazy idea, let me know if you think if it has any worth.
Trade power blocs need to pick an initial principle, internal vs external trade.
Right now, merged markets are basically automatic. But what if they weren’t? Instead, you’d unlock a merged market as a perk when you reach internal trade level 3. Meanwhile, external trade level 3 could give a major trade bonus between members instead.
Another option could be removing the default market fusion altogether. External trade is already strong, so leave that alone, but rework internal trade since it feels pretty weak. For example, internal trade could give members an advantage trading with each other, plus a blockade effect that reduces benefits for outsiders. Then, blocs that really want a unified market could pick a “Market Unification” principle as they can just invite a bunch of countries, form a customs union with market unification at level 2, and then manually remove whoever they want while still keeping the level 1 trade bonus that gives a huge boost within the bloc. That honestly feels way better than the standard trade bloc by itself.
In my game, I ended up removing every nation from my market. I lost nothing while they lost over half their GDP. I’m now making loads of money trading with them normally. It just feels a bit sad that to make my trade bloc stronger, I had to get rid of its only real unique benefit. It would be nice if there was something else worth keeping, with merged markets as an optional tool for players who want them for more specific strategies. Maybe even let us swap out the first principle later in the game to switch things up.
Funny enough, cutting off their access and raising prices has actually made these countries even more dependent on my market, increasing my bloc leverage, so they’re less likely to break away now.
By uniting my rich country with the giant nations instead, like india or china, I'm also supplying them with the stuff they need AND I'm missing on the opportunity to actually trade with them, using my huge trade advantage for massive exports/imports and from other bonuses/treaties as I could have had access to all of their goods for a much lower price, and sell them mine for a much higher price, plus tariffs.
Am I wrong in thinking that forming a trade power bloc is kind of pointless, perhaps even detrimental, right now?
I can see the point if you want to attract their immigrants, but you don't really have to share markets with them, just pick freedom of movement and grant them all their own markets so you can enjoy actual trade with your own members.
Edit: Here's a crazy idea, let me know if you think if it has any worth.
Trade power blocs need to pick an initial principle, internal vs external trade.
Right now, merged markets are basically automatic. But what if they weren’t? Instead, you’d unlock a merged market as a perk when you reach internal trade level 3. Meanwhile, external trade level 3 could give a major trade bonus between members instead.
Another option could be removing the default market fusion altogether. External trade is already strong, so leave that alone, but rework internal trade since it feels pretty weak. For example, internal trade could give members an advantage trading with each other, plus a blockade effect that reduces benefits for outsiders. Then, blocs that really want a unified market could pick a “Market Unification” principle as they can just invite a bunch of countries, form a customs union with market unification at level 2, and then manually remove whoever they want while still keeping the level 1 trade bonus that gives a huge boost within the bloc. That honestly feels way better than the standard trade bloc by itself.
In my game, I ended up removing every nation from my market. I lost nothing while they lost over half their GDP. I’m now making loads of money trading with them normally. It just feels a bit sad that to make my trade bloc stronger, I had to get rid of its only real unique benefit. It would be nice if there was something else worth keeping, with merged markets as an optional tool for players who want them for more specific strategies. Maybe even let us swap out the first principle later in the game to switch things up.
Funny enough, cutting off their access and raising prices has actually made these countries even more dependent on my market, increasing my bloc leverage, so they’re less likely to break away now.
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