Tribal uprisings

[Hundhedning]

I've been thing about making a modded event which makes pagan tribes reappear if a rebellion is succesful. Let's say the mordvins (MORD) are attacked and annexed. Later, that king gets Realm Duress, a rebellion is successful and via event MORD reappears.

This way, lithuanians could reappear as LITT, prussians as YOTV, cumans as CUMA or POLV, finns as SATA etc. Is it possible?

 

[saskganesh]

I think you'd have to write an event replacing tags, don't know if that's possible.

or you could have an event recreating that "kingdom" outright. but the issue there is that you'd have to consider what conditions this would happen AND also they would be weak and easily crushed, unless you bumpfed them somehow with gold and/or bonus troops if attacked.

 

[jordarkelf]

Very possible to write this.

Take a look at an old event of mine, which recreates Christian titles, for an example of how to do it: Christian Realm Revolters.

You will need to replace the tags, change christian to pagan in the triggers, and adjust the areas.

Here's a simple example (untested):

#############################
# The Mordvins #
#############################
province_event = {
	id = 909041
	trigger = {
		condition = { type = area value = 579 } #Mordva
		condition = { type = religion value = pagan }
		condition = {
			type = or
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { revolt = yes } }
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { looted = yes } }
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = MORD
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = RUSS # If Russia exists, it is assumed to have wiped out pagan resistance.
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = ruler_religion
				value = pagan
			}
		}
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 72 #6 years
		modifier = {
		condition = { type = ruler_csc condition = { type = trait value = realm_duress } }
			factor = 12 # half year
		}

	}

	action_a = {
		effect = { type = create_tag value = MORD }
		effect = { type = prosperity value = 1 }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		effect = { type = random
				chance = 50
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		}
	}
}

 

[saskganesh]

won't the AI just disband those extra regiments, since they are most likely not at war?

 

[jordarkelf]

Not immediately. In my experience a newly spawned realm surrounded by religious enemies tends to get DOWed within a few months, at which time usually these regiments will still be around.

 

[saskganesh]

I doubt it, based on my own experiences with the moslem kingdoms modding in DVIP (infinitely respawning, rarely growing, usually conquered).

I was thinking a bonus troops if at war event may be better.

 

[Hundhedning]

Would this work?

#############################
# The Yotvingians #
#############################
province_event = {
	id = 909042
	trigger = {
		condition = { 
			type = or
			condition = { type = area value = 422 } #Scalovia
			condition = { type = area value = 423 } #Sudovia
			condition = { type = area value = 426 } #Yatviagi
		}
		condition = { type = religion value = pagan }
		condition = {
			type = or
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { revolt = yes } }
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { looted = yes } }
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = YATV
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = LITH # If Lithuania exists, it is assumed to have wiped out pagan resistance.
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = ruler_religion
				value = pagan
			}
		}
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 72 #6 years
		modifier = {
		condition = { type = ruler_csc condition = { type = trait value = realm_duress } }
			factor = 12 # half year
		}

	}

	action_a = {
		effect = { type = create_tag value = YATV }
		effect = { type = prosperity value = 1 }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = prussian strength = { militia = 4000 light_cav = 1000 heavy_inf = 1000} }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = prussian strength = { militia = 4000 light_cav = 1000 heavy_inf = 1000} }
		effect = { type = random
				chance = 25
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = prussian strength = { pikemen = 2000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		}
	}
}

 

[jordarkelf]

That should work.

Note you only need to list one of the provinces in an area to have it match all of them -- I think ##422, 423, 426 are all in the same area so you don't need to list them all.

 

[Hundhedning]

Thanks. Another thing: I always thought the "factor" parameter was supposed to be directly applied to the MTTH. För exampel "factor = 3 " would make it take three times as long. Is this not so?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Thanks. Another thing: I always thought the "factor" parameter was supposed to be directly applied to the MTTH. För exampel "factor = 3 " would make it take three times as long. Is this not so?

That that is the case

 

[jordarkelf]

D'oh, of course. You'll want to reverse the factors.

 

[Hundhedning]

Very possible to write this.

Take a look at an old event of mine, which recreates Christian titles, for an example of how to do it: Christian Realm Revolters.

You will need to replace the tags, change christian to pagan in the triggers, and adjust the areas.

Here's a simple example (untested):

#############################
# The Mordvins #
#############################
province_event = {
	id = 909041
	trigger = {
		condition = { type = area value = 579 } #Mordva
		condition = { type = religion value = pagan }
		condition = {
			type = or
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { revolt = yes } }
			condition = { type = has_province_effect value = { looted = yes } }
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = MORD
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = exists
				value = RUSS # If Russia exists, it is assumed to have wiped out pagan resistance.
			}
		}
		condition = {
			type = not
			value = {
				type = ruler_religion
				value = pagan
			}
		}
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 72 #6 years
		modifier = {
		condition = { type = ruler_csc condition = { type = trait value = realm_duress } }
			factor = 12 # half year
		}

	}

	action_a = {
		effect = { type = create_tag value = MORD }
		effect = { type = prosperity value = 1 }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		effect = { type = random
				chance = 50
		effect = { type = add_regiment culture = ugric_baltic strength = { archer_cav = 4000 light_cav = 2000 heavy_cav = 1000} }
		}
	}
}

I tested this and get an exception when I run it.