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Hello all,

Just started playing Majesty 2, it's prety cool.

I however am finding it really hard right now. I'm on the royal mission Slaying the Dragon.

Just wondering if the dragon attacks everyone else from the start of game. My advisor told me to avoid him until I was ready, but he comes by every two minutes and destroys a building and kills a few heros.

I find it hard enough to make money at the begining of a game. Any help for a newbie?
 
Build all your expensive buildings in the south and use fear flags to keep your heroes from getting between the dragon and the hovel he wants to burn down.

Later on you can stick some dwarven towers up top since he can't burn those down and they draw his attention from everything else.
 
I actually thought this mission was one that would make me throw in the towel, but actually it is easier than it seems. You just need patience. I managed to win first time around.

It is important to get a good economy going as quickly as practical. I used my initial cash to build clerics, rangers, market, blacksmith and two towers. The towers were built north of the palace and the rest of the buildings to the south. Then I started to get frustrated...dragon came along killed a northern tower, came along later and destroyed the rangers. But I had a bit of an economy and was able to rebuild...slowly.

Then another pivotal moment came - a massive attack from the small dragons (wyvern?). But I survived just and rebuilt.

Build towers and magic towers and then dwarf towers - upgraded towers can mostly survive a dragon attack. As many as practical over time. Self supporting lines of fire if possible. They will get destroyed. Patiently rebuild them. Slowly branch out and destroy the lairs. Build some new guilds...wizards (gives you the towers), rogues, dwarves (more towers) and then the lord's tower.

Don't rush this scenario. Once you have a bit of stability with towers providing defense from the minions, start more aggressively addressing exploration, monster lairs and the missions.

The real secret comes when you have the economy to sustain your personal lightning spell. Every time the dragon attacks, wait for it to select a target and then hit it with lightning. The dragon will only hang around until its health hits a threshold. Either your towers or your lightning spell will accelerate this and then he will head to his lair for healing. So you can eventually survive 80-90% of all dragon attacks with nothing destroyed...just keep hurting him and sending him home.

At this point it is just a matter of time...bide it well. My top heroes were levels 20-23 when I finally attacked his lair and then him. I only had a single guild of rangers, warriors, rogues, wizards and clerics, as well as some lords. All town upgrades were max'ed out. I lost a few good heroes but he succumbed inevitably...almost an anticlimax.

Patience patience....defend...rebuild and rebuild and keep growing.
 
Its kinda flawed scenario, i believe you are supposed to have some time before the dragon comes a knockin but the ai spawns sewers and peasant huts up north triggering the dragon, had him come while my first buildings were still going up with only a sewer grate up north he demolished everything and that was a restart :Þ

Anyway the workaround is to make sure there is always something he can smash up north and to explore and kill the closest wyrm nodes asap.
 
I'm starting to think this game only has the illusion of difficulty, as all it seems to do in every mission is undoubtedly kill some shit in the beginning, yet you eventually rebuild and take everything out. The workaround being "having something expendable you can afford to lose" is so counter-productive to a strategy game it makes my head spin.
 
I built some towers to the north of my palace and upgraded them. The dragon usually can't kill them on one go around and when he comes back they've been repaired. This takes a lot of the sting out of the mission.
 
PsiRedEye22 said:
I'm starting to think this game only has the illusion of difficulty, as all it seems to do in every mission is undoubtedly kill some shit in the beginning, yet you eventually rebuild and take everything out. The workaround being "having something expendable you can afford to lose" is so counter-productive to a strategy game it makes my head spin.
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Acceptable losses, sacrificial bait, forlorn hopes - is counter productive to a strategy game? Those are time-honoured strategies when fighting for time. Being willing to give up parts to save the whole in a delaying action while getting ready to fight back has never been the most popular military strategy, but it it surely belongs in the realm of strategy. :)
 
Peter Ebbesen said:
Acceptable losses, sacrificial bait, forlorn hopes - is counter productive to a strategy game? Those are time-honoured strategies when fighting for time. Being willing to give up parts to save the whole in a delaying action while getting ready to fight back has never been the most popular military strategy, but it it surely belongs in the realm of strategy. :)
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Possibly, but somethign as mechanical as a Dragon always attacking your northernmost buildings and flying away, especially when you have zero control over how some of your buildings are placed? It reeks of beginner's trap.
 
None of the buildings you can't control the placement of are important. If he burns down peasant houses... Great! They're totally irrelevant (And they're automatically rebuilt the next day anyway).

I didn't lose a single building to the dragon on the playthrough in which I won. Simply placing everything south of the Palace (And not even putting towers north of it) meant that the dragon (Whose attack runs are timed) never had enough time left in his attack run to destroy anything once he got all the way down there. He'd take one attack at my marketplace or blacksmith or a guild, and then fly home.

No problems at all.
 
Early Lords work well in this scenario, because the dragon can't kill them in one go.

Here's a picture of my kingdom:
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As you can see I found a handful of high level heroes worked best :D
 
I think I have tried all these suggestions, still can't get through this campaign. I beat the Ogre and the Rat easy, this one gets me everytime and I can't get into any other campaign. So, just at the time where I am ready to send heros out to comply with the witches quest, the mintaurs come knocking. The dragon, the wyerns and the minitaurs (and of course the rats) do me in. I just can't rebuild the stuff as fast as they are bringing them down. I have tried both building the hero tower first with guard towers, marketplace and blacksmith; to building 3 guilds, marketplace, blacksmith and guardtowers. I just can't seem to be able to get money fast enough to replace my heros and priorty buildings. Also, how are others spending on heros? Since we only start with 4000, I seem to only be able to afford 1 or 2 first off and then have to wait to hire heros from the guilds.
 
imo at the start, dont build guard towers and blacksmith, use you money for clerics, rangers and warriors.
guard towers generally steal XP and money, that belongs to your heroes.
Building a blacksmith at start isnt really useful either because you dont have enough heroes to actually get the benefits from it.
So build your 3 guilds south of the castle, pump 3 heroes out of each guild and you can focus them to defend by placing defend flags at those guilds.
Research healing at clerics guild (use only when it will safe u money on resurrection, or when the hero has more gold than the heal costs)
Research healing and mana pots. the healing over time item can wait.
Let the dragon eat some houses, royal guards and your castle.
When u have enough money place rogues guild at sewer entrances (not if they spawn north of castle)
Try to secure trading posts asap and build your guard towers there, Trading posts have really high priority for a good economy.

Note that the warrior guild has 800 hp standard and should be build where the most threat is coming from. (not the dragon)

Try getting another clerics guild after that, and start thinking about upgrades for all heroes after that.



Good luck!!
 
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