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Truth is most of you dont have to do any port forwarding at all... alot of these routers have a D M Z setting demilitarized zone turns the NAT firewall off and it will be normal like before. so yes enabling your DMZ setting will do the trick for everything... instead of doing all that port forwarding.

-access your settings page (ill tell you how to do it with linksys atleast) http://192.168.1.1/ username blank password admin

-then click advanced tab

-then click DMZ host

-enter the last 3 digits of your IP you have with your router and hit apply


and waalaa youll never have a problem again with any game or any site etc
 
And you have just opened up your PC for any kind of unauthorised access as well. That's what a NAT router with port forwarding is blocking out for you :D

Jan Peter
 
Originally posted by Riso
A NAT is not a firewall.
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Technically, that is true, but in many respects a NAT enabled router behaves as a poor man's firewall. Because of the very nature of NAT, the only inbound traffic that is allowed is inbound traffic for which an outbound request is present in the lookup table (unless you setup explicit port forwarding, of course :D)

Simply put, any unsollicited inbound traffic is blocked at the WAN side of a NAT enabled router, and is never forwarded to a system behind the NAT router. This makes your Windows PC almost immune to the most common unsollicited external accesses, like on the netbios ports (used by file/print sharing).

Now the only thing you need to do is to make sure you don't run spyware stuff on our Windows PC that explicitly opens up trafiic from the inside (so no KaZaa :D), and you are quite safe.

Jan Peter
 
firewalls?

Safe..safe from what?..
Firewalls are useless for private persons such as us..nobody will ever snoop in your pc, and many of us has dynamic ip adresses anyway..

Firewalls makes YOUR life harder, and really don't do jack otherwise.

Janster
 
Re: firewalls?

Originally posted by Janster
Firewalls are useless for private persons such as us..
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Speak for your self.

Originally posted by Janster
nobody will ever snoop in your pc,
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Yes they will.

Originally posted by Janster
and many of us has dynamic ip adresses anyway..
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Poor you.

Originally posted by Janster
Firewalls makes YOUR life harder, and really don't do jack otherwise.
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No. Firewalls are good/smart to have and not very hard to set up properly.
 
hmm

There are millions and millions of pc's out there, information gathering tools might get something but I'm not sure such exist, a lone hacker on the other hand would NEVER bother with your pc ever ever.

As for information tools, they usually are GATOR and stuff like that which you have to acknowledge download of if you've set the things right...and I never do that.

most of the paranoia today is caused by the companies if you ask me...
I don't use a virus scanner nor anything else..just my head..

cheap and works all the time :)

Janster
 
From my experience you are not completely correct. At a few times when I have activated DMZ I almost instantly discovered trojans on my computer. Maybe not that harmful but nor very comforting.

A hacker would of course not "manually" hack into any private persons computer but as far as know its not very difficult to sweep ip's for security flaws or even open gates.

For dynamic ip-number users this is not a big problem and neither if you have a basic firewall. I prefer a static ip number but then again I use a firewall (which is easy to setup).

Note: USA will kick Japans ass ;)
 
Firewalls are essential to having internet access these days. There are programs out there that search endless amounts of IPs to find a security hole. (Trust me on this!) If your online activities incluse such things as posting in the newsgroups or using IRC, or any "chat" facility where your IP is shown you just increase the risk 10x.

Not having a lock on your front door at home is the same as not having a firewall. Theres millions of homes, what are the chances they find yours? Probably the same as them finding your computer.
 
True enough.

At the time I hadn't updated my ADSL from PPTP forwarding to NAT routing, all traffic would end up on my PC. I had, naturally, installed a software firewall (ZoneAlarm to be precise).

Within 5 minutes of an active internet connection (at any given time on any day), it would catch several (a dozen or so on average) malicious IP traffic to my public IP address. Of these, some 90% were targeted at the very furnerable NetBios ports, the ones used by File/Print sharing.

Nowadays, this traffic is blocked at the WAN side of my router/firewall, but I still keep ZoneAlarm active. You never know if/when a malicious program slips through (we all use that whacky Internet Explorer, don't we :D), and if it does, ZoneAlarm will not only block the unwanted outgoing traffic, but in the process of blocking will also alert me to the precense of such a program.

Heck, just 2 weeks ago at the office of one of our customers a mail worm had managed to slip past the ISP visus scanner, the server virus scanner and the office PC's virus scanner. It was received by Eudora (we don't use Outlook for a reason !) and was probably embedded in an excel or word document. Anyway, after activation it managed to configure Outlook Express with the mail account info from the Eudora mail client, and tried to send itself to target email addresses it managed to find on this particular PC. Luckily, ZoneAlarm was installed, so the moment Outlook Express tried to send out mail, it was stopped dead in it's tracks, and we were immediately allerted.

Just to show you that you can't be too carefull these days. Don't ever rely on just one line of defense, let alone no defense at all.

Jan Peter
 
well maybe you guys on this thread can help me!(the other router thread is sooo dead) i got this ZyXel prestige class 650(fancy name ay;) ) and i know now how to get into the options browser(well maybe not what it is called..) but as the fat tech n00b i dont know WHAT to change so i can play HOI on the internet!

here hows the menu on the router site(198.168 etc) looks:

Advanced setup

password

LAN

wireless LAN

WAN

NAT

security

dynamic DNS

Remote management

UPnP

guide me! in the dark against evi*koff*well help me!
 
On my router I have to set my specific IP to DMZ host. It's a tab I have under Advanced. My router is lynksys though. Go under Advanced, and see if you can set a DMZ HOST. It will be a tab along the top. Use the IP of your specific computer (you may have to specify one under network settings in Control panel, don't use auto-assign)

IE, mine is 192.168.1.30

The DMZ host exposes your whole computer to the internet. Fine by me, all my games work fine now.
 
Originally posted by mooxe
Firewalls are essential to having internet access these days. There are programs out there that search endless amounts of IPs to find a security hole. (Trust me on this!) If your online activities incluse such things as posting in the newsgroups or using IRC, or any "chat" facility where your IP is shown you just increase the risk 10x.

Not having a lock on your front door at home is the same as not having a firewall. Theres millions of homes, what are the chances they find yours? Probably the same as them finding your computer.
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They can steal my music, or my games, or my data files. No biggie, I got backups and if they grab my credit card number, thats what the no-fault insurance on it is for :D.
 
OK, how do I get to this part: ----->

-access your settings page (ill tell you how to do it with linksys atleast) http://192.168.1.1/ username blank password admin

which menu is that, I tried typing http://192.168.1.1/ but that didn't work.

Stupid network crap!

Help!
 
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